• TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Anyone have any idea why the DSA IC is so much better? I'm surprised at how non-lib it is.

      • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Sure, but I was under the impression that most of DSA were filled to the brim with AOC types, left anticommunists and was a thoroughly liberal org.

        • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          DSA chapters vary a lot. There are a lot of communists / hardcore DemSocs in many chapters, enough that they're in the leadership positions and run the agendas.

          I would wager that a lot of membership is baby leftists but the people motivated to do the leadership work tend to be better.

          • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            What do you mean by hardcore DemSocs? Like Bolivia DemSocs or like Bernie-style imperialist socdem?

            • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              The former. Actual anti-imperialists dedicated to abolition of the owner class using bourgeois democratic means (yeah I know I know).

        • pooh [she/her, any]
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          3 years ago

          Sure, but I was under the impression that most of DSA were filled to the brim with AOC types, left anticommunists and was a thoroughly liberal org.

          Probably depends on the individual chapter, but from what I've seen it tends to be more actually leftist than it appears, though it is a "big tent" org, so you get all types.

        • KollontaiWasRight [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Not at the institutional level - institutionally, it's been governed mainly by left-labourists, whatever you want to deem modern Sao Paulo Forum DemSocs, and post-Trots, with a handful of leftcoms for the last few years.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The good statement North Star is criticizing isn't even from the International Committee (IC) but from the National Political Committee (NPC).

      • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I get that, but since the topic was on DSA, I just happened to remember that the IC did a no cold war session and was curious why the org was acting differently from what I previously perceived it to be.

        • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The IC is about 500 DSA members, and the leadership is appointed by the NPC, so it mostly comes down to having a good NPC and a lot of DSA ppl who care about internationalism and anti imperialism to get involved. The convention elected an NPC and took up a platform and resolutions in line with the IC because most members support the IC.