Slash arr slash gaming circlejerk unironically doing "They targeted gamers" over some fake China shit.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      That person is me btw.

      You should do nothing about it. But you shouldn't whitewash what's happening or retreat into some made up reality. When people go around calling shit fake when it isn't, it discredits calling actual fake shit fake. Nobody's going to take you or us seriously when we say, "that's just Western propaganda," if we say that about everything. Moreover, downplaying homophobia is alienating and makes us look bad.

      I basically acknowledged everything you said in the post I linked btw. I fully understand being critical of western media due to it being unreliable on China and due to the agenda of manufacturing consent. But when a story is actually true, you can just acknowledge that China isn't perfect and move on. Rather than being like, "China never does anything bad ever," why don't we be like, "China isn't perfect but that's no reason to do an imperialism at them."

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ok if China is banning effeminate men and homosexuals, that's bad. I remain unconvinced that it is.

    • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      People who live in China don't have any power to affect Chinese policy. It's decided from on high. Government just happens to you there. One day, there's an announcement, there is a 4-6 week lead time, then bam.

      They're not fooling around, either. They eliminate whole sectors of the economy. They just wiped out the after-school education sector. One day they're chugging along fine, the next day poof, your business is worthless and parents are standing around with pre-paid contracts that are now worthless.

        • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, they eliminated it. The idea being that Chinese schools are all equal, and they all provide an excellent education.

          Ask all the Chinese parents where they'd rather have their kids: a public school or an international school. That's where all the extra lessons after class come in: public schools in general are substandard. Remind you of America?

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        People who live in China don’t have any power to affect Chinese policy. It’s decided from on high. Government just happens to you there.

        Orientalism dot png. Besides the clear and obvious ridiculousness (they do vote, and are consulted on policy), there are nearly 100 million members of the party.

        • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, they vote on the lowest possible level. They have no real power.

          To join the CPC requires high test scores, a good college and a lot of extra work. Not everyone is cut out for it. It's not democracy.

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            The Chinese people have no power at all in government. It doesn't do anything they want. This is why the central government has a 95% approval rate, as measured by a Harvard study. :very-smart:

              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                It's actually ludicrous to think that the will of the people being followed isn't linked to approval rate, but if it helps, the majority of Chinese people also feel their system is democratic, much more than Americans do.

                  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree

                    Paywalled, but the summary is 73% of surveyed Chinese consider it democratic, compared to about 50% of Americans on America.

                    I'm not going to keep going back-and-forth with you, because I'm not interested in your assertions without evidence and this post is dead. If you want to discuss democracy in China, make a new post about it.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          That's not really fair. The site does have some chauvinism issues (it's mostly used by westerners, so not surprising), but the average opinion is much better than whatever that guy's saying. Thankfully.