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  • Homestar440 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is just so transparent, and libs will channel all their anger at this one guy, who will undoubtedly be hyper-funded into endless re-election, without realizing that he's obviously serving a function.

    • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Nah, he's not gonna get reelected. Dude will be on the same ballot as Trump in 3 years and straight party ticket voting alone will sink him. Manchin probably(?) knows this, and does not care.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I’ll honestly be shocked in Manchin or Sinema get re-elected. They’re completely alienating what little base they had, if they manage to not get primaried they’re 100% gonna get owned by the Republicans

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Isn't the excuse people make for them that their voters are republicans and that if they did good things instead of bad things, they would loose to a real republican who would do bad things and then there would be one person less with a D next to their name in the senate, which is bad?

          • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Basically yes. Dontcha want the Dems to have these seats not the republicans?? So they gotta act like republicans...

            Oh wait you actually want them to do something not just have a D? Damn.

            Weather this argument is accurate... Well I don't think so. Republicans hate them anyway

            • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I mean it's pretty obviously accurate, Manchin won in a state Trump won by 40 points.

              He's still a shitbag, obviously, but if "Republicans hated him anyway" they would not have elected him.

          • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I mean yes, it is literally impossible for these people (at least Manchin) to win without significant Republican support. Like, probably 30-40% of Manchin's voters are also Trump voters. That isn't an excuse as much as it is a mathematical fact.

            And it's also demonstrably true that moderate Republican voters do cross over and vote for Democrats sometimes, just as some moderate Democrat voters cross over and vote Republican. Joe Manchin won because large numbers of Republicans crossed over. Susan Collins won because large numbers of Democrats crossed over. Again, not an excuse, just historical fact. A lot of leftists don't like to hear that "challenging your own party generally does get you crossover votes" fact, but that doesn't make it less true.

            It doesn't let Manchin off for the shit he's pulling, of course.

    • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      He’s super powerful because he’s letting losers like mark Warner get off Scot freee for supporting the same Shit