• save_vs_death [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    here in Amsterdam disabled people are allowed to drive micro cars anywhere a bike is allowed to go, meaning that you have even more mobility than able bodied car drivers because the city is car-hostile and to get to most places you have to drive a labyrinthine route while micro cars and bikes can just take a straightforward route

    they're allowed on ferries so you can just drive on and off, so on and so on

    you can learn more about them here

    it just goes to show the poverty of imagination, sure take the monster suvs from the bad people, but not from me; how am i gonna get around without one of them?!

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    trains and electrified wheelchairs are still things. the issue right now is that electrified wheelchairs are cost prohibitive. make a wheelchair that can cover a mile in a sensible amount of time and we have good enough walkways for it, and we're good to go once we revamp the infrastructure. anyone not able enough can just get an electric wheelchair for free, maybe even have a special lane for it on the walkpath.

    source: was wheelchair bound in my youth cause i nuked an arm and a leg and it was a pain getting around. i actually lived at a relatives house for a bit because they were able to push me to the train and to the hospital faster than it would for us to drive and load/unload a nonspecialized car for the wheelchair and get me in it / all strapped in without it fucking me up. tbh she just sounds like she has a fancy car that most people cant afford for their disability and doesnt want it taken away and lashes out at anyone who hates cars because of it, including disability advocates

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I've often thought about the point the tweet is trying to make, it is hard to get a one sized fits all approached to disabled people and transportation. I wonder what could be done for people with mobility issues. More handicapped accessible options when it comes to transit? I'd allow it if a wheelchair bound or someone with walking issues needed to carpool rides.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        yeah you could just make walkways big enough to have a car on them and have the car go slow around crowds. universities do this for disabled people all the time. you only need a couple of these sorts of cars and they have a system setup so that there is next to zero wait time for them.

        and a lot of walkways are like, shattered / old in the usa so a lot of wheelchair users have to make entire new (longer) routes in a wheelchair to go the distance. though i do think most forms of disability can be covered by wheelchairs, some edge cases might necessitate a car. cant think of any off the top of my head but there are a couple of brutal skin diseases that require extremely gentle care that not even a wheelchair could provide, and probably not a car with current infrastructure due to the bumpy ride. maybe a super fancy wheelchair with shock absorption and a way to protect from the sun could do it

  • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    How does a real-life human being get to a brain state that results in them posting something like this?

    Does this person think no one will ever drive if we have bike lanes and public transit? Are they not creative enough to imagine a world where the only alternatives to cars are biking and skateboarding? Do they not realize that tons of disabled people can't drive? Are they someone larger who has been harassed frequently and found taking refuge in left-ish spaces insufficiently welcoming?

    I suspect that this user considers left == lib, and we all know libs can't resist mocking Trumpers who are overweight. To most normies, we're all strongly associated with the fucked up shit that libs say, and it's endlessly infuriating.

    I'm pretty sure bourgeois libs have a megafactory out there to create accounts with takes like this just to tire us out. The Langley GPT3 solidarity-reduction bots all have an incredibly similar formula to this: pit identity against politics. More believable than an actual person holding these opinions, being this mad about them, then blaming the left/bike lanes/environmentalism.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "I choked on my glass of water today and it's all the left's fault for trying to kill me 1/37"

      • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Libs will hallucinate a DSA malthusian caucus just to avoid sharing a train with a poor person...or continuing to drive knowing poorer disabled people have access to transportation.

        • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "No....I..I totally don't want to get on a light rail because scary poor black people use it, of C-COURSE not! I think we sh-should all drive with no alternatice in uhhh....SOLIDARITY WITH FAT AND DISABLED PEOPLE....yeahhhhh!"

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    wow I definitely want to work with this person, their politics are not entirely identity-based moralizing

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    while there is absolutely a good point buried in there that any non-car infrastructure developed needs to account for people with mobility issues, i also have a feeling that the coming climate apocalypse is not gonna be super for accessibility either

    • danisth [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Never mind mind fact that pretty much everyone who is pro transit would advocate for 100% accessibility in transit systems. This arguing against a strawman.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        3 years ago

        "Your short sighted one-size-fits-all solutions need to account for disability, and since I cannot imagine what that would look like, I guess choking to death in carworld is the only possible future and there is no other alternative!"

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Lots of disabled people can't even drive cars though

    I can't drive at the moment, also disability friendly busses and trains can definitely be a thing.

  • justjoshint [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    i have no idea what discourse this person is responding to because i've never seen anyone say "lets get rid of cars and replace them with literally nothing" but that doesn't necessarily mean they arent responding to a real person out there with that shitty take

  • Luddites4Christ [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    As if almost all public transportation isn’t expressly kitted for disabled accessibility.

    We’re not getting rid of busses you fucking idiot.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      Buses are comparatively good, but in the US, metro and LRT leave a lot to be desired in terms of accessibility. For example, NYC's subway system is excellent in many ways, but 3/4ths of the stations aren't wheelchair accessible.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    One half step away from saying "if you're against cars, you oppose my existence".

    Just go ahead and do it.

  • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Wait wait, can someone explain how calling it an obesity epidemic is eugenics? Do chuds say it? I thought calling it an epidemic was a good way to not blame people for what in most cases is a systemic societal issue.