I haven't seen too many Great Takes on Xinjiang on reddit or pretty much anywhere esle for a while. News seems to be done with it too. Amazing how that happened as soon as U.S. focus shifted to Taiwan.
If we had the CIA manual on how these ops are supposed to run I'd guess it would describe everything in stages. The anti-China campaign is a long term plan.
What I believe is most likely the explanation is that there are multiple stages and the first one was the aggressive media campaign.
The next stage is normalization, now that it is "common sense" that China is committing genocide or whatever you pull back on the media campaign and let the various online communities and "independent" media outlets push the narrative themselves, we are in this stage and you can see this by how tankie pro-china shill genocidal denier all got mushed together on social media. If you couldn't be pro China before now it is impossible not to be labeled as any or all those things.
I this stage think the pullback from the media is intentional in order to not create fatigue, I think it is normal that when people are bombarded with the same topic over and over they start to not give a shit because 1) nothing is being done about it because US isn't going to war or anything like it and 2) nothing they can personally do about it as it is outside the electoral cycle.
From now on they'll periodically push the topic in order to keep it fresh and keep it normalized. I also think they are ok with the pushback because it normalizes the us vs them mentality, if nobody argues against it eventualy you'll start doubting where/who are these damn tankies who defend China I never seem them anywhere? By allowing pushback it makes the enemy visible and easily identifiable.
Also we are not in control of any media outlet and our reach is very limited, they really couldn't care less about some Reddit poster getting 1k upvotes on a pro-China comment debunking some article(just claim it is some CCP shill on CCP controled Reddit lol), this is meaningless compared to how much information people consume.
We'll only know for sure if the CIA dropped Zens a few years from now when he drops to obscurity. Right now he is still being named on mainstream articles.
I’m curious why there hasn’t been more blatant accusations toward China about making and losing control of COVID-19. It seems ready-made for anti-China sentiment.
Yeah, this has always given me kind of a weird feeling. Why are they leaving that on the table? Is it just because Trump said it?
I’m curious why there hasn’t been more blatant accusations toward China about making and losing control of COVID-19. It seems ready-made for anti-China sentiment.
Fort Detrick is incredibly sus so for whatever reason the US doesn't want this to become mainstream knowledge, China can force the matters by bringing this up to the UN, making speeches etc so the only explanation is that the US got the message, they are afraid of articles like this becoming mainstream.
r/nba has had one major post everyday for the past week because borderline out of the league center Enes Kanter is trying resuscitate the whole genocide narrative with some extre tibetan slaves shit.
but some of his takes are being pushed back a bit. most of the idiots are still supportive.
"omg he's standing up for the truuuth upvotes to the left pls."
i saw someone comment something like "kanter is what kyrie thinks he is." i think learning mandarin and moving to china might be the only way to browse the internet without wanting to nuke the internet.
CBC just "investigated" forced labour in tomato farming in Xinjiang, including working directly with Zenz himself.
Attempting to disrupt Xinjiang tomato paste sales channels, and it looks like it's working to at least some extent.
They're gonna be a little shocked when they start investigating what happens in American tomato farming.
IIRC China is winding down the program as it has been largely successful in deradicalization and creating opportunities for Uighurs. Which is perfect for the west, because now they'll start talking about how China "hid all the evidence" so now there's no way to disprove their claims.
It's just what happens. Most people aren't making a big deal about ICE camps anymore either
That's because no one with any control over the media narrative really cares about ICE camps, they just wanted you to know the dang cheeto is singlehanded making america fascist, and now that he's out of office peace and civility have returned
r/196 talking about China would make Joseph McCarthy suggest to them to use more nuance
Maybe because the CIA is funding / plans to fund Uighur groups to sabotage the Taliban?
Has anyone tried using the line that invoking the memory of the holocaust to spread propaganda about a fake genocide, all to promote the interests of American capitalists, is extremely antisemitic?
Edit: It probably sounds too tankie and internationalist, but you could also say "...all to promote the same capitalist class interests that perpetrated the holocaust..."
invoking the memory of the holocaust to spread propaganda about a fake genocide, all to promote the interests of American capitalists, is extremely antisemitic
They don't care, they've been doing this constantly for a long time. Look up "double genocide theory", it's a favorite of eastern European ultranationalists. Jewish groups have criticized it as a form of Holocaust denial, liberals don't care.
I'm trying to improve my day, so I won't be looking up double genocide theory. I assume it's some insane shit about how destroying antisemites was actually bad because it was done earnestly instead of symbolically.
Basically, it's (copied from Wikipedia) "the idea that two genocides of equal severity occurred in Eastern Europe, that of the Holocaust against Jews perpetrated by the Nazis and a second genocide that the Soviet Union committed against the local population".
True. I'm thinking of discourse where you see the phrase class enemies enclosed in scarce quotes like it's not a real thing.
Maybe the communist rhetoric can be toned down, but not compromised, by just saying it's antisemitic to invoke the memory of the holocaust to create new Cold War propaganda. Eastern Europe is littered with mass graves and the ruins of holocaust infrastructure, there's nothing like this in Xinjiang.
Yes, I know this is pointless.
The libs still believe it, but it isn't being pushed as hard by the media at least.
UK media and political class are still rabid over Xinjiang. Guess the ripple from the US is still passing through
