• Nakoichi [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    We wouldn't if the US wasn't full of anti-vaxx brainworms.

    Don't tell me about what is or isn't about science while doing some underhanded anti-vaxx apologia.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        You're just distracting from the original point. People aren't striking because mandates. You're undermining the labor movement and deflecting from the real cause that is workplace safety and wages.

        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          "Distracting?"

          People are striking because of conditions, which include bad governance & bad corporate policy... largely around how inconsistent the handling of the pandemic has been

          why are you separating out ultrapartisan reductionism here? both parties did horribly & New York City still has the worst death rates since the pandemic started

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            I fucking work retail this is not partisan this is about safety.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                You're using vague terms and moving the goal posts all over the place. The vaccine mandates are not why people are striking. FULL STOP.

                  • please_dont [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    volkvulture has been a community member since before tha sub was banned

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  people are definitely protesting over mandates globally, the labor disputes are largely to do with worsening conditions around changes implemented or policies inadequately implemented since the pandemic started

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    ffs we already addressed this. There are people protesting yes. But protest =/= strike.

                    There are hundreds of thousands of people striking right now for reasons that are specific and have zero relation to vaccine mandates.

                    You are trying to use their struggle to push some anti vaxx shit and you're acting super sus about it.

      • cilantrofellow [any]
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        3 years ago

        70% is only valid as a herd immunity target for diseases that do not reinfect and do not demonstrate an evolutionary rate capable of vaccine escape.

        I appreciate the nuance Wolff thinks he’s applying but it’s neither the time nor place.

        Edited as my 70% was vague.

        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Yes it's both the time and the place

          ~70% is for 12+, for adults it's actually quite a bit higher

          For the most vulnerable populations the vaccine rate is 85%+

          • BeanBoy [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            70% rate for the country doesn’t mean everywhere in the country reached 70% which is why we’re getting variants that can break through vaccines

              • BeanBoy [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                Oklahoma has 50%. Wyoming has 48%. The country as a whole has 67% for one dose

                  • BeanBoy [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    So not even 70% are fully vaccinated, which doesn’t even matter if you’re in a local area hovering below 50%