WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT?!?!? T VALUES? P VALUES? OH WE JUST CHOOSE A RANDOM NUMBER WE LIKE TO BE THE THRESHOLD FOR NORMALCY? OH THATS SO COOL AND OBJECTIVE AND MATHMATICAL. SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT TO ME ACTUALLY. OH YOU WANT ME TO DO A XI^2 TEST? HOW ABOUT YOU XI^2 MY ASS! FUCKING MEASURE THE CRITICAL Z VALUE OF MY TAINT. LOSER.

  • AernaLingus [any]
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    9 months ago

    I think you have to be an actual masochist to enjoy statistics. Even if I kinda suck at number theory and set theory and all that jazz, I totally see the appeal--there's a lot of elegance, beauty, and wonder in mathematics. But statistics? Pure horror. That's not to say that statistics isn't useful, just that it's ugly and completely devoid of fun (for me)

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      The only good thing about statistics is that you can use R or Python to just iterate through all the random values and then pick one later that actually works.

      But it's not elegant at all.

    • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      I have the exact opposite opinion. Sure, math is pretty, but it also lies. It's how you get "spherical cow in a vacuum" solutions to problems. Statistics is dirty, but that's because everything it measures is even dirtier. Mathematics without statistics can only tell you what should be. Statistics is how you measure what actually is.

      • AernaLingus [any]
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        9 months ago

        I hear you, but that feels like more of a physics model vs. engineering heuristic dichotomy rather than math vs. statistics.

        (If you haven't seen it already, the Engineer Guy did a lovely little series of videos about engineering heuristics)

        The kind of math I find alluring doesn't operate in an idealized version of reality; rather, it's completely divorced from reality, instead living in universes defined solely by mathematical axioms. It's only incidentally that real-world applications that arise from these investigations (e.g. modern cryptography from the work of centuries of number theory nerds). But to each their own! In general, I prefer the concrete to the abstract, but statistics is an exception.

  • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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    9 months ago

    Staticicians pulling out charts and calculating normal distributions to show how improbable it is that nobody likes them despite the empirical evidence

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  • huf [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    you should be an expert at pee values though...

  • Lhotze@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Its funny, because I am taking a statistics class right now in college. It is a very well prepared class, super good lectures, very good materials and a well defined list of deliverables through out the semester. I think it is the best prepared class I've taken this far and I am closing the second year of computer engineering. Probably I will have quite a high grade.

    Even with all this I still agree with OP. Fuck statistics.

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  • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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    9 months ago

    since you're an owl, it's not surprising that you're into dark magics

    We — your ignorant posting familiars — watch you struggle over the runes, and admire your determination and intellect.

  • HamManBad [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I'm sure p values are there for a reason but my teacher refused to explain it

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  • material_delinquent
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    9 months ago

    I want to relearn it tbh, I think I have decent statistics literacy, but it could be better