• robinn_IV
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    11 months ago

    Loser on a forum:

    Seems to me, finding another more suitable place to house these people would have been a better solution

    Empty tautology; I’m sure these “suitable place(s)” are readily offered, as exemplified by the existence of homeless people. If the city has an issue then they can build free housing and provide free services for these people in whatever “zone” is appropriate (they won’t).

    “A church is a suitable place.” Not according to the zoning laws where it is.

    The Bible according to these people: “And Jesus commanded everyone to help the needy and the poor (unless zoning laws forbade it).”

    surely they could have found a better place to care for the homeless than somewhere that wasn't suitable for that purpose.

    I think I’m actually going insane. Why is it not suitable? Why do these laws made to prop up businesses take precedence over the life of actual humans? Do they think God came up with these “zoning laws”?

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      This boils my blood.

      Matthew 25: 42-45
      For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.

      Make no mistake, if the second coming happened today Jesus would be left to die in the cold by a self professed Christian.

        • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          There was a post about an idea for a Christmas movie where Jesus comes again and, after getting incarcerated for assault and battery against a megachurch pastor. When witnessing the cruelty of the American prison system, he then unites all his inmates who then successfully rebel against the entire prison. I can't find the post though.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Jesus would be executed at the demands of chuds after telling them to be kind to others and sell their possesions to donate the money to the needy.

        Just like the first time.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Literally on an article about how someone is stopping them from opening a place to homeless people.

        Also anybody who makes the "you should personally solve the societal problem instead of trying to solve it through societal programs" argument should get a free pass to the front of the wall line

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Here's some actual Christian persecution, Evangelicals! Time for you to start protesting this!

  • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/ohio-pastor-arraigned-after-being-charged-for-housing-homeless.html

    includes some good quotes from the pastor, which I would put here, except they've got something on the page keeping me from copy-pasting on my phone

    • AcidMarxist [he/him, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      "I was spiritually homeless, and God provided a home for me in Heaven," he said. "He’s put a burden on my heart for them. Many of these people have been rejected by their families and cast aside by their communities. So, if the church isn’t willing to lay down her life for them, who will? This is what we’re called to do."

      "And I can't help it because I believe this is the mission of the church to make disciples and this is how we do it by showing the love of Christ preaching the truth and laying down our lives in service and humility. As Christ laid down his life for us. That's what I believe,"

      From the pastor being charged

  • American_Badass [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    Violating zoning laws, is the charge I guess? What a cruel thing. The churches around me (tiny, tiny town, no shelters) operate as unofficial overnight warming and cooling places, as they call it. There is nowhere else for miles and miles.

  • Rom [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Amerikkkan governments: Do nothing to make homeless people's lives even the tiniest bit less shitty

    Also Amerikkkan governments: Prosecute people who do absolutely anything to make homeless people's lives even the tiniest bit less shitty

    They really just want homeless people to die, don't they?

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      Every homeless person, means check on welfare, etc. is a threat to the proletariat to be obedient towards their job's boss(es) and state or face the same misearable conditions as the guy sleeping at the supermarket parking lot

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      11 months ago

      their first priority is recruiting for the Reserve Army of Labor

      having an intrusive thought about brigades with names like "21st Visible Poverty Regiment"

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      I've read a few takes on that over the years, including from some comrades with a liberation theologist background. I'd love to read something more detailed about the theory that American Christianity is not just hypocritical, but an actual deliberate inversion.

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    11 months ago

    "Giving shelter to the homeless" could be a line straight out of the bible as something Jesus did. The US is a caricature of itself.

    • D61 [any]
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      11 months ago

      Something something... "you shall be judged by how you treat the least among you"... something something something.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    Trump claims he's fighting for Christians; I wonder what his track record with protecting Christians who are being charged with felony help crime is. I'm not a Christian but what this Pastor is doing is awesome and he should be allowed to continue helping the homeless unless the city is willing to actually do their part and home them themselves.

  • D61 [any]
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    11 months ago

    There are some churches around my parts of the USA who aren't exactly mega-churches but they definitely aren't little places with a few dozen really old members and their doors are almost ALWAYS closed.

    Just this huge assed building that sits locked up six days a week unless there's a holiday or wedding or something.

  • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    Chuds: *"noooo we need to be open during a pandemic, it's our FREEDOM! You shoudl die from a preventable virus because of ME!" frothingfash

    Also hogs: "heh, why don't those homeless people find jobs and get a house? They're violating the sacred zoning laws, why should the Church help them?" smuglord