Once again, it's easier for them to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.
It's also interesting how David Sirota, an editor for Jacobin, is co-credited for the story and was a co-producer for the film.
Sirota is a socdem at best, so it fits with the no end of capitalism
the moment it became clear Meryl Streep was supposed to be Trump instead of a Hillary Clinton analogue, it failed to reach the satirical heights the movie's concept could have brought it to
Isnt the message that believing the science as individuals is pretty useless since politicians and businessmen will ultimately fuck us all anyway ? I found it a pretty good movie to radicalize people on why we need systemic change
That message is in there, but they tried to do so many things that message gets real messy. Like by making Streep Trump, instead of "politicians" it's some politicians wink-wink- you know-who-we-mean. And while the tech baron was one of the best characters, it's kind of hard to map on exactly how he relates to climate change (I get it, I just don't think the film did a great job connecting those dots for all the people who think Musk and Co. are allys against the destruction of the world)
I actually liked the lack of subtlety, we're passed the point where films like these should be at all subtle because if it's even a tiny fucking bit subtle people are gonna miss the point. We absolutely need one where the script literally contains guillotining celebrity billionaires under a giant fucking hammer and sickle calling for a worldwide revolution.
The movie had some fun parts but overall it fell flat because it was diseased by liberal ideology, they were literally to scared to name the political party of the president. At first I thought it was because they were actually trying to do a "both parties suck" but they clearly coded the president as Trump.
Also the part when they said China and Russia were only trying their own mission because the US cut them off the deal was peak lib brain.
So why was the rest of the world presented as not having agency?
Why wasn't it said that the Russian mission only exploded on launch cause it was nuked by the US to secure the mining rights on the asteroid?
Also the heavy handed christian evangelical message -esp. during the dinner at the table-, like WTF? Can't you imagine a different culture to the oppression of the US?
Broke: "believe the science"
Woke: dress up as Captain America and accidentally a few Exxon execs
I dunno, I liked it. The whole thing about "listen to the experts" and "believe science" aspects of the movie is that the professor guy whose supposed to be the leader of that movement gets co-opted by the system that's fucking up, by heaping media attention and praise on him, and appointing him to a leadership role where he doesn't have actual control of anything the minute a "platinum donor" decides they shouldn't blow up the comet. I don't know how you can watch this movie and not come away with the idea that the whole system was rotten and needed tearing down.
Yeah, it's definatly a nihilistic and cynical movie, but that's how I'm feeling about the world these days, so I guess it resonated with me.
From reading reviews of it, most of the people who didn't like it took the administration as a Trump stand and the people as MAGAchuds because it was too on the nose. The poeple who liked it took it as a generic administration stand it and our society as being misled by these awful people, and therefore crippled in our ability to respond to large scale disasters, and found it frighteningly realisitic.
I do think it was a mistake to not make Streep explicitly a democrat trying to find middle ground with the right in the face of an apocalypse, because that would be way more on point. It was also too US-centric, and only implies that we use our might to thwart other attempts to do anything good in other parts of the world, but it's kind of a satire focused on the US specifically, so... :shrug-outta-hecks:
Biden honestly isn't all there, he's a puppet, he couldn't do anything if he tried.
Yeah at first I thought Meryl was supposed to be more of a Hillary type corporate Democrat, the more it became a 1:1 allegory for the Trump admin the less effective the satire felt
As deeply online subversive counterculture scum we have access to a lot of narratives about how to tear a rotten system down. We know about Haiti and Jamaica and France and China and Vietnam and a hundred others. Cuba, for fucks sake. What does the average American know about Cuba? Castro bad, old cars, communism = poverty. They have no idea how the war went or how the Cubans fought Batista or that Batista even existed. They don't know what to do. They don't know who needs killing and who needs to do the killing. They're helpless because any possible narrative of revolt has been lovingly stripped out of the zeitgeist.
Obviously we need to make a movie that's just a two hour compilation of Exxon executives being shot in the head to a catchy upbeat sound track.
You know Castro broadcasted public executions on television, how exactly are you supposed to make people cheer for capital punishment that won't backfire like a Robespierre merry-go-round is a mystery that revolutionaries will forever struggle with.
This would be fair of the movie wasn't about climate change actually, where science is advocating for systemic change.
Look, the comet destroyed the planet and the rich people got ate by aliens, that’s all I care about 10/10 cinema just for the ending
The message is so over the top, there’s no subtlety whatsoever,
Honestly, good. Satire is dead and doesn't work.
The rest of it sounds extremely :LIB: though
What I'm getting from the comments here and elsewhere is that the movie hits a sweet spot where it's too lib for the leftists, and too left for the libs
David Sirota is co-credited for the story and was a co-producer, but the screenplay is by the director Adam McKay (also the other co-credit for the story). So we have to do digging to figure out who really is the one who hit that sweet spot just right.
The politics are 100% Sirota for better or worse. Fwiw I enjoyed it but I'll probably never watch it again
It seemed to piss off everybody, I guess that's good.
hello im the expert if we push the communism button we will listen and in believe the science
WHAT!? ADAM MCKAY DIRECTED ANOTHER BAD MOVIE?
Oh my god, I can't believe the man who has directed 1.5 good movies didn't come through this time.
And for the record his one good movie is The Other Guys. The half a good movie are the parts of The Big Short that I like. Come at me Anchorman and/or Step Brothers fans. Also I haven't seen Vice and I can't remember if I like Talladega Nights or not.
Okay... so, I've never actually watched Step Brothers all the way through. I saw a little bit of it in 2009, when it was on the television, for some reason. My parents were watching it and I was in the room. Pretty early on there is a scene in that movie where the ugly man whose name I can never remember gets his balls superglued to a drum set, or something like that.
This was too crass for my delicate sensibilities and so I left the room and have not yet resumed by viewing of Step Brothers. It could be fine, actually.
All his "comedies" are grossly, grossly overrated, he has the sense of humor of an SNL writer, all his jokes are terrible. Which isn't surprising, since that's where he started his career. Yes, the other guys is bad too.
His political stuff is much better imo, though. I recommend watching Vice, it's pretty good. Well, the less you know about the people and what they did, the better the movie will be. I don't know how much entertainment value the movie has, but as a sorta kinda documentary about the events it's pretty cool I think.
I'll tell you what, I like The Other Guys for two reasons. The first is the joke in the beginning when Samuel L Jackson and the Rock jump of a roof and die while believing themselves invincible. Which is stupid, but it's so completely absurd that I find it hysterical. Most of the rest of the movie is pretty bad, there's a lot of forced jokes, a lot of scenes that feel very SNL. Some of the jokes between the two leads are okay, most of them are bad.
The second reason I like the movie is that I like everything I've ever seen Steve Coogan in (which is just The Indian in the Cupboard, Night at the Museum, Hot Fuzz, The Other Guys, and Shepherds and Butchers). I just like that man. Don't know why. Don't know anything about him. He could be awful. He's british and an actor so there's a pretty good chance that he's a pedophile TERF member of the landed gentry. But fuck me if I don't love the man.
If you like Steve Coogan that much, you might like the newer Alan Partridge TV show.
He plays a satire of your generic TV personality. It's very british TV humour. I didn't really like the Alan Partridge movie but I liked the TV show. It's a character he's been doing for decades but I haven't seen much of other than those two things.
Greed starring Steve Coogan is a thinly veiled parody of a British commercial fashion boss who's name eludes me right now. Lots of people didn't like it but I thought it was great. Quickly paced and often times absolutely silly.
This Time by Alan Partridge is good too - it's a TV series recent parody of a shithead BBC TV personality.
Same goes for The Day Today.
I've never watched full seasons through but the shows are at least worth a few clip binges on YouTube.
I liked Vice, and most of the media people who didn't like Vice have since attempted to rehab Bush.
