• Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      As I mentioned in my other comment I've known some pretty interesting folks in my day and even drunk rednecks with cold war era full auto weapons aren't that trigger happy.

      There's a certain kind of relatively sheltered boomer steeped in America's toxic death cult that is our gun culture that yearns to murder someone.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Jesus fuck :desolate: , what perpetual siege mentality does to chuddy suburbanites

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's so wild to me having grown up around guns and plenty of unhinged people. Nobody but the most deranged chuds immediately go into this murderhappy mindset at the slightest startle.

      I knew a guy that kept a fuckin AK very unsecured in his bedroom (though he was good about keeping it unloaded and the ammo hidden or locked away). Never once could I have conceived of this guy sprinting to the closet to grab it at a moment's notice. And this is a guy that had a confederate flag hanging in his kitchen (not an explicit white supremacist just a weird guy in the 90s, I think it was actually a real original that was some sort of heirloom it looked like a relic).

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Legit all it would have taken is this guy to shout "who's there, get out of my house!" and his daughter would be alive. Chuds have to have some type of inherent death drive or something cuss yeah this is unhinged shit.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I should also add that even if we could have found the ammo, my friends and I were all taught basic gun safety from a very early age and the worst we might have done was some property damage.

          This is not in favor of leaving your guns around like that but like, kids aren't morons and if you educate them and instill respect for firearms they become drastically less dangerous.

          On top of that you cannot control how other people store or handle their guns and that education can save a life even if you don't personally own one.

          Firearms safety should be mandatory in school curriculum so long as we have more guns than people in this country (at the very least, I would argue we've opened pandora's box in that regard and it will always be a necessary thing).

          • steve5487 [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            the kid was behaving fine it was the dad who didn't so much not understand guns as he didn't understand that it's a big deal to kill someone

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              What I was getting at was that this guy was never instilled with respect for or discipline regarding guns if this is how he handles his own.

  • cawsby [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Shit like this is why I don't hunt in like 90% of the country anymore.

    Shooting at shadows and sounds without identifying your target happens way too often in the Midwest and South especially.

    I'll hunt out on the West Coast but only in areas where there's virtually no people.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Funny you mention the west coast because as I mentioned above I've known some crazy mofos out here with all sorts of guns and never once have I thought any of them would be so skittish as to shoot their own kid in the middle of the night fearing an armed robber.

      And like, this was in weed growing country where there were definitely plots you did not want to trespass on or you would be shot at, but usually just a warning shot first.

      Edit: Yes I am aware of the legal ramifications of the "warning shot" that doesn't apply when you're like 10 miles from the nearest sheriff station.

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Edit: Yes I am aware of the legal ramifications of the “warning shot” that doesn’t apply when you’re like 10 miles from the nearest sheriff station.

        er, could you elaborate? the "legal ramifications" part and the "10 miles from the sheriff" part

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Firing a "warning shot" usually invalidates any legal defense regarding use of lethal force. You either fear for your life and act accordingly or you don't.

          If you're out in the boonies mfers will just kill you and burry you and the cops probably won't care enough to follow up. You're lucky if you get a warning shot.

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  Basically nearly a million people are reported missing each year. If you're in a rural area chances go down you're reported missing in a timely fashion let alone searched for or investigated, also chances are higher some good ol' boy sheriff covers for their friend.

                  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    also chances are higher some good ol’ boy sheriff covers for their friend.

                    Would you say this is a significant effect, or does most of it come from the simple fact that nobody is around to see/hear anything, and it's very hard to find bodies?

            • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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              3 years ago

              Depends on your relationship with the local cops and who it is that went missing.

            • read_freire [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              There was a milquetoast true crime docuseries called Sasquatch that just came out that does a nice case study on just how dangerous the part of the world Nakoichi's talking about is. I lived there for a bit and had the same experience more or less.

              That still wouldn't stop me hunting on public land.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    In a recording of the 911 call, the father asks his daughter what she was doing, and both parents beg for the girl, Janae Hairston, to wake up.

    Lmao I love how his first instinct is to blame the kid for him shooting her

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    3 years ago

    Wow, crazy that the face-eating rabid leopard who have been frothing on the mouth for the chance to eat a face, ends up eating the first face it came across.

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    i hear this happening a lot more than "heroic father shoots intruder"

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Shit like this is the reason the gun I own is in a locked case in the trunk of my car unless I'm using it. For home defense what you really want is a baseball bat.

    • JuryNullification [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I would caution against keeping it in a car if you have anywhere else to store it. Cars get broken into a lot.

      But otherwise spot on.

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Rip

    Edit; no wait I made a dumb fucking comment Imagine how fucking fucked up you get from doing that.

    Holy shit

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    These people know that burglars usually come during the day when no one is home right?