They kill and loot because "they're just following orders." It's gross. A high schooler working a McDonald's drive through is braver than all the troops bravery combined
Troops ain't good. US troops aren't even that amount of ain't good.
Their class position however means that they are potential (and needed) allies and we should work to radicalise the enlisted and lower commissioned ranks.
Daily reminder that we aren't fighting for the working class because they're sweetness and light, plenty of nice aristos around, plenty of shit workers. We're fighting for them because they're the only hope to eliminate the concept of class and build a better world.
If there's ever going to be a coup in this country, this is the only way it's ever going to happen.
never forget a blackwater guy went onto reddit 10 years ago to do an AMA and talk about why he left, and someone asked him what we should have done in response to 911 and he said "nuke mecca"
lmao god dam there's so much other bad shit in that thread i didnt remember
love how everyone is just obsessed with how much money he made
The amount of racism makes me retch.
"Afghans and Haitians are the dumbest people" hmm almost as if educational structures are absent because of the constant occupation by foreign forces. Nah it's definitely because of their cUlTuRe
The left shouldn't reject troops as bad people, they are some of the best people to turn over to our side. Remember more troops and veterans donated to Bernie than any other candidate.
I know some people, good people! They do, and I know I'd like the do it given the chance. Good people are fucking troop wives. Millions and millions of strokes in their flowers, folks. Of course, not all at once I mean... Oh but you love to see it. Troops are nasty people doing nasty things. I think a troop wife deserves a good roll, don't you?
Don't attack the troops, they MUST turn for any revolution to be successful. It is absolutely and completely essential that military will turn, if it does not it will fail.
This isn't up for debate. Yes the machine does monstrous things, but you must find ways to turn those within that machine towards us, not to turn them away.
I'm sorry but, this doesn't actually answer my question. Which cases where revolution was successful did mass desertion or side switching not occur?
You cite Cuba but in this book produced by an awful US think tank they cite Castro's ability to turn many of Batista's officers as a key point in his success. Check page 107 cited [291]. Now, I know you're going to say "american think tank" but rand have absolutely nothing to gain from misleading their own ranks on what was and was not successful about these events, it is essential for these think tanks, particularly in these kinds of matters, to generally be actually effective. Cuba isn't just a story of a ragtag bunch of folks succeeding because regular people joined them. There's more detail to it than that.
Turning them is essential. NOT just the lower ranks. The officers. Turning the officers is absolutely essential.
I really mean this question. Can you think of ONE successful revolution where it has not played a significant role like this? I can't. And it is important to remember that if a revolution is to occur it MUST succeed because failed revolutions become fascism, it is better to have not even had a revolution at all if it is going to fail. I firmly firmly believe that a commitment to turning the military is an essential factor in this. I also firmly believe that the officers are easier to turn than the lower ranks anyway, they are informed, educated and politically more aware on top of the fact that they have been trained to think far more than the average soldier.
Why would I hate a radicalized troop? They're the ones who know how to fight.
If the shit ever got real real, would you know how to wage an insurgency?
I feel like veterans either become radicalized and go harder than all the libs I know or are fully indoctrinated chuds for the rest of their lives
With no menu yet presented to me, I slammed a $20 on the counter and shouted "one STATE please ... but hold the TROOPS." The cook seems annoyed with me now please help, what should I do.
"I think anyone drafted deserves a bit of respect"
Yeah like the Amish
They have an even more patriarchal than regular society iirc. So they're not really cool.
Yeah you know how as socialists we think all people are equal, and how there should be fewer literal and metaphorical walls and borders between us? Take the far far far far FAR opposite of that. That's how the Amish see the world. They are chosen people and literally everyone else is satanic garbage. They're not good, folks...
They are chosen people and literally everyone else is satanic garbage.
Reminds me of Felix's take on Hasidim.
They're Calvinist? I know a guy who's not Amish but is a Calvinist. He knows I'm fairly areligious and we've had good chats with me trying to figure out his beliefs.
Hmm, yes, that is true. I guess I like their cautious approach to technology and the slow adoption thereof.
I help homeless veterans get housing st my job and let me tell you, most vets are just are just normal people pushed into hard situations. focus on the top echelons and dunk on them. leave the average joe alone
