I'm trying to get r/modernart off the ground for that reason. Modernism, 1870s-1940s~ in particular, has a lot for socialists and almost nothing for reactionaries (short of surrealism and futurism). Marxist art criticism is deeply rooted in superstructure and critical theory more broadly so there's a lot to engage with. Shitting on bourgeois patrons and academics is a central feature of the period so it's art you can bully people with.
I wish both had better communities. Surrealism fails because it's just empty metaphors/ironic imagery/distorted perspective, like the modernism equivalent of Rick and Morty with all the same appeal to people whose sense of appreciation is somewhere between "holds up spork" and "I recognise the holds up spork reference!". Futurism is little big man syndrome for entire agrarian societies. It's the modern art equivalent of a car magazine with all the same appeal to chuds who equate their masculinity with driving really fast. I've started a few surrealist communities, r/fifthworldproblems and r/sixthworldproblems, which I more or less abandoned within a couple years because they're insect lamps for Nazis. Any other movement is going to require historical perspective or extra dimensions of systems thinking or femininity that they're incapable of.
Both could be rehabilitated into a left-radical lens but they'll always come up against that messaging wall. Futurism as train worship and solarpunk, surrealism as Tim Heidecker's more absurdist take.
I might be wrong but I feel like this has to do with music having an aspect that revolves around crafting an identity, which seems to feed into the sort of egocentric false consciousness that drives certain people towards reaction & fascism... And also because music doesn't necessarily require any social awareness outside of whatever group/genre the music is associated with.
On this note along with @bazingabrain arts are the place to be but there's a sweet stop. The closer you get to it mingling with consumption and product the more ghoulish people get. For example anyone trying to turn their art into a major hustle. Which creates a bit of a weird space at times because that means you need to find folks doing this for fun, that have the TIME to be doing it for fun. There are outliers obviously, I've met some nice people trying to make money off their artistic endeavors, but arts/craft is more of a correlation than a sure fire if that makes sense
Probably Modernist art, a movement that began in Europe in either the late 19th or early 20th centuries. Soviet - style brutalism is part of the modernist school
Chuds can't into art. The further you get from consumption-based hobbies and the closer to creative/artistic ones, the cooler people tend to be.
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I'm trying to get r/modernart off the ground for that reason. Modernism, 1870s-1940s~ in particular, has a lot for socialists and almost nothing for reactionaries (short of surrealism and futurism). Marxist art criticism is deeply rooted in superstructure and critical theory more broadly so there's a lot to engage with. Shitting on bourgeois patrons and academics is a central feature of the period so it's art you can bully people with.
Which is incredibly unfortunate because those two things are my favorite forms of art.
Finding out Salvador Dali was a Francoist :deeper-sadness:
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I wish both had better communities. Surrealism fails because it's just empty metaphors/ironic imagery/distorted perspective, like the modernism equivalent of Rick and Morty with all the same appeal to people whose sense of appreciation is somewhere between "holds up spork" and "I recognise the holds up spork reference!". Futurism is little big man syndrome for entire agrarian societies. It's the modern art equivalent of a car magazine with all the same appeal to chuds who equate their masculinity with driving really fast. I've started a few surrealist communities, r/fifthworldproblems and r/sixthworldproblems, which I more or less abandoned within a couple years because they're insect lamps for Nazis. Any other movement is going to require historical perspective or extra dimensions of systems thinking or femininity that they're incapable of.
Both could be rehabilitated into a left-radical lens but they'll always come up against that messaging wall. Futurism as train worship and solarpunk, surrealism as Tim Heidecker's more absurdist take.
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For furry communities specifically I imagine the queer-coded-ness is a huge factor too.
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:dio-walk: :jotaro-walk:
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I mean obviously trends aren't ironclad. Sorry about your guy getting got :sadness:
This may just be confirmation bias on my part but it feels like every story I hear about this happening, it's a musician
I might be wrong but I feel like this has to do with music having an aspect that revolves around crafting an identity, which seems to feed into the sort of egocentric false consciousness that drives certain people towards reaction & fascism... And also because music doesn't necessarily require any social awareness outside of whatever group/genre the music is associated with.
On this note along with @bazingabrain arts are the place to be but there's a sweet stop. The closer you get to it mingling with consumption and product the more ghoulish people get. For example anyone trying to turn their art into a major hustle. Which creates a bit of a weird space at times because that means you need to find folks doing this for fun, that have the TIME to be doing it for fun. There are outliers obviously, I've met some nice people trying to make money off their artistic endeavors, but arts/craft is more of a correlation than a sure fire if that makes sense
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Black metal and metal in general lol
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Probably Modernist art, a movement that began in Europe in either the late 19th or early 20th centuries. Soviet - style brutalism is part of the modernist school