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  • acealeam [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    so many people purposefully ignoring the point of that tweet. 2k checks is actually something you can point to. you can't give biden credit for much beyond the vaccine, and then libs go Oh well its all republicans fault because they wont take the vaccine. That doesn't absolve him! In what world is this not a monumental systemic failure? Even if you, personally, do not know how to solve the issue: guess what, that's not your job! You're allowed to expect people to do their fucking jobs, and not go eh seema kinda tricky, guess it's cool that a million americans are gonna die. Have some standards!!!

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      solving the problem entailed either taking China's approach and aiming for zero Covid or waiving the vaccine patents and exporting enough vaccine to stop the virus's spread globally, before it mutated and got out of control. either way it's never been the fault of the people who refuse to take the vaccine and it's totally impossible for the liberal state to take either approach.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I think people tend to severely underestimate China's approach to COVID, the zero covid policy was amazing but China is now at close to 1.2 billion people vaccinated.

        At this point the anti-vax crowd do share part of the blame if we accept that the only way they will take the vaccine is by force. Yes the US should definitely just pay people but then that is not zero covid anymore there are more than enough chuds that would literaly burn free government money to own the libs. It would be far better than the current situation but it is not 100% guaranteed to work.

              • CTHlurker [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                You just made me imagine a Federal Shots-for-Shots program. Where you get a free gun / free ammo if you get vaccinated. Would probably make all the libs freak, but I think it might make the chuds get on board. Also biden could frame it as some attempt at bipartisanship like he always wants.

        • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yes the US should definitely just pay people but then that is not zero covid anymore there are more than enough chuds that would literaly burn free government money to own the libs.

          This has been tried in many places already for many immunization programs—and specifically with COVID, in somewhere my family is from. It had little to no effect on vaccination rates. People holding out at this point either have legitimate barriers to access (e.g. can't get time off from multiple jobs, no transportation to clinics, etc.) or are ideologically opposed and cannot be bought off.

          Mandates and harsh punishment for non-compliance is the only way forward.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Pretty sure Biden didn't sign the 'make a vaccine exist bill' either. Writing some checks is something you have real co trip over. The vaccine came when Joe was president cause that's when it was ready to go

      • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Vaccines were already good to go by the time Biden took office, with the first US vaccination being done in December 2020. Kamala Harris initially said she didn’t want to take the vaccine because Trump said it was safe. Also, their initial target of “x million people vaccinated in the first 100 days” was criticised as it matched the vaccination rate set under Trump. They did improve and hit a bigger target, but I feel like I’m losing my mind when I look back at the gaping chasm between the political opportunity and what Dems actually did.

    • CrimsonSage [any]
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      3 years ago

      They aren't arguing what they think they are arguing when they say "But the republicans prevent us from doing things when we are in charge!!!" That is just saying "we are actually able to force republicans to do things when they are in charge because they are afraid of looking guilty." Now this isn't me saying its good that the open fascists control the government, just that libs dont actually reflect on what they are doing and saying, they are purely reactionary in their ideological stances in the literal sense of the word, they simply react to external stimuli without thinking as to what their reactions might entail.