sisko: ah quark youre so cute doing capitalism, its like going to museum
quark starts exploiting his workers
sisko: alright cut that shit out right now or you will be turned over to the ferengi where youre a wanted criminal :rommunism:
If you murder a murderer, that makes you a murderer too. :very-intelligent:
Batman logic is for stupendous badasses who can disable someone with a gun and take care of them long term.
I don’t think anyone here can take down an armed Nazi and put them in a re-education camp without risking their own life.
Nah, Batman logic is for the kind of rich fuck that'd do trap and release dino hunting in the middle of a constant Jurassic Park breakout event. Lemme just use my stupendously advanced geegaws to play a nonviolent most dangerous game with a serious of mass murdering theme villians. Doesn't matter that they break out so often that mass graves are a quarterly city budget line item, gotta maintain my hardline morals or else I, a billionaire that has his name slapped all over this shithole, might exert excessive authoritarian control over the innocent populous
Not to get all fucking comic nerd - but no good writer would put a super hero in a “kill the bad guy or he kills people immediately “ like in Man of Steel. As They would either find a way to make sure no one dies, or kill the villain.
Batman is always having the killing be abstracted as It’s revenge or future deaths when joker escapes.
Well, it’s also in a setting where the prison has a rotating door and does no rehab.
Superman also does the same.
But it comes down to “can you prevent the Nazis from causing harm and without killing?”
It’s part of why murderers do have prison is the assumption is they won’t do it again.
Batman can capture the joker without killing, I couldn’t do that as I’m not a super ninja with a billion gadgets.
The ideal is not to kill people, but at a point, you have to trolly problem, but they are also the trolley, and they would do it again.
Like if we had magic phantom zones and were bullet proof like Superman- killing Nazis would be bad because we have the option to disable them and exile safely. We live in the real world, so we can’t, but the idea is to use the minimum required violence.
I mean, the phantom zone is just demigod Arkham, place leaks like a sieve.
I don't really know where I was going with my spiel tbh. I think I was focusing on your "taking care of them long term." Batman logic is just performing the strictly moral takedown but it's never about taking care of anything long term. Like batman logic would be tossing the nazi into a camp, not really caring that they all organize into a gang, then having to be an even bigger badass when they all get out organized and ready to go
Oh no. There is a trolly approaching.
You can pull a lever to run over everyone you don’t like or you can never have to hear about trolly problems aside from the Real trolly problem - that there are no trollys for me to ride.
Murder is a legal term and won't apply to killing fascists :soviet-chad:
Holy shit yes. Save that for if this site’s image uploaded ever get fixed so you can submit to c/emoji
Still waiting for the restoration of hundreds of images on hexbear :negative:
If you’re gonna slander a dax at least let it be ezri :shrug-outta-hecks:
Something something when the majority takes power and oppresses the minority who used their power to oppress the majority something something...
we don't actually need a justification that they'll accept. They've never needed a coherent reason to let us be killed.
This makes sense only if you think anti-fascists are the real fascists. It goes without saying the warlord sisko and his ilk are enemies to the Cardassian socialist experiment.
I never got this line of reasoning. Okay, if you believe that then what are you going to do about it? If I started a roving band of murderous marxists are you telling me you won't stop us because that'd be too violent? Oh no, the liberals are going to treat me the same way they treat fascists; by doing jack shit about it!
Oh no, the liberals are going to treat me the same way they treat fascists; by doing jack shit about it!
Oh no they won't. They'll fucking kill you.
I just can't stand how they were the mask of civility to make themselves feel better. Are they smart enough to know that they'll bleed fascist when it comes to that or are they just so propagandized?
They won't recognize it as fascist. They rationalize their fascist-enabling ways with liberalism; on the one hand the leftist protesters deserved to be beaten up by the cops as they were not following directions while on the other hand Nazi marches and propaganda is fine because it's legal and muh freeze peach.
They'll always arrive at totally moderate, reasonable and level-headed conclusions that just so happens always to favour fascists over the left.
