“This isn’t anything special. It’s pretty basic”
“This isn’t hard. I can do this myself at home”
“Why are you spending money on this? It’s literally just [lists ingredients]”
Holy fucking shit shut the fuck up im trying to enjoy this fucking meal why do you tag along and waste my money and time
Me: Go to 5 star restaurant
: Order tendies : Have tendies at home : Get hangryRich people that go to 5 Star S places in the Alps are exactly like that, they just order what they want and don't even look at the menu. I've been told the quality is pretty average because of that, and also because the working conditions are shit and all the chefs are drunk or high to survive and get the letter of recommendation.
Do people do that? Like, even if i can cook that stuff at home, a. good Service is also an experience, b. cooking is a lot of effort and c. maybe I want to try new things, see how they cook the meal.
I'm a cook and like, yeah, you kinda can cook some of this stuff at home but you won't and I will do it way better
also there's a shit ton of planing involved with making a menu at home, you need to buy the stuff do prep work and then also cook it so that everything is done at the right time, with your home equiment, presumably while other people are eating.
Yeah, we have it all prepped and ready to go. Most of the cooking is done in the morning the rest is putting together and heating
I've worked in a kitchen before and was the prep guy and garde manger, so I know how much work goes into a menu. Everyday from 2 to 6 only mise en place and a few orders from the small menu.
I'm a cook that started out as a dish washer and when I go out with friends and the restaurant serves food on wooden boards or god forbid those metal trays I will sometimes make a note of complimenting the food but saying the wooden boards or metal trays are tacky.
You're wet from doing dishes for hours in a hot ass kitchen and the owner (not head chef) brings in a crate of wooden boards to be used for "aesthetics" (despite not a single person ever complaining their burger and chips were on a plate and not a piece of wood) which has to be dried manually out of the dish washer and periodically waxed. And metal trays that A: don't fit the dish racks properly, B: shaped in a way the dishwasher can't properly clean unless you stack them flat which is completely inefficient rap during a rush, C: has to be completely dried so a piece of paper with the restaurant logo can be placed at the bottom and D: conducts too much heat so things fresh out the oven like brisket placed on a thin sheet of paper in the tray will still heat up the metal and burn the waitstaff's forearms.
Also changing the name of mashed potatoes to pomme puree on the menu and charging $3 more for the same thing to to fatten the bottom line despite no-one getting a raise that's not the minimum wage going up. Yes I am bitter.
On your last bit tho, I'm normalizing demanding massive raises where I am rn
“This isn’t hard. I can do this myself at home”
"Then invite us over and show us."
This.
"Wow you could make this! I can't wait for your next dinner party!"
This isn’t hard. I can do this myself at home
People that can afford a place with a kitchen be like
If you just stopped eating for a few years maybe you could afford a kitchen too!
I have never eaten with someone who does this? The most is "this is so good I want to look up how to make some" and that's me saying that lol
Yeah same lol, this is some bourgeoisie shit. Sounds miserable
I have done this but from the perspective of "oh those poor cooks and kitchen hands have to prep this shit?!". Like as a cook, we have had the owner (and not head chef) make several changes in the kitchen for the sake of aesthetics that most people wouldn't give a shit about.
I had a friend like that.
My philosophy now is, if it's bad enough for you to complain about it to me, it's bad enough to complain about it to the servers. I ask them if they want me to talk to the server and they've only ever said no, and then I would say it's fine.
Alternatively, I offered to take their meal if they don't want it.
All that said, I'm lucky enough to have friends now who don't complain when I buy them food. Also helps that I'm so paranoid about food outside, I only do drive thrus and eat my food like a hermit.
I only do drive thrus and eat my food like a hermit.
I feel that. the last two years I have eaten more fast food than the previous [redacted] decades
There's a type of person who thinks every activity must be some life-changing, mind-blowing, cathartic experience and if it fails meet that impossible bar they're unimpressed and nitpick the whole thing.
It's extremely annoying. Criticism for them isn't about an honest accounting of the experience but about being let down for not being transported across a threshold to heaven and joining the divine.
Could be food, a movie, game, show, architecture, other people, fucking nature, or transportation... I have a friend like this and especially anything that's received any praise will now be built up too greatly and not meet their expectations. Their opinions are made of platonic ideals, and the only thing that matters is if they had a good opinion coming into the activity.
I know this person very well and it's all bougie as hell :angery:
Might be the crowd you're hanging with, going to xth the calls to ditch them. Things I hear are how to recreate the food or just hungry noises.
Nevermind, but then its time for them to hit the kitchen and show what they're made of once in a while, see if they're not just all chef hat and no yummies. At least that's how it works in my family when someone drops that 'I can do better' line.
u/RootVegetable's criteria for judging food:
- Do you like it?
- Do you enjoy it?
- Does it please you?
- Are you left satisfied?
- Would you eat it again?
If the answer to these questions is "yes", the meal was worth it
I don't know, it's probably better to have a bit of a good-natured moan with friends about how the pasta at this Italian restaurant is kinda shit than to smile and pretend that everything is great just to observe polite bourgeois table manners. So long as you don't become a Karen and take it out on the staff, of course.
There's actually a fair bit of theory on this. For example, Bourdieu's book Distinction often drifts into asides about table manners and other related habits as things that signal and situate the classes. It isn't that all table manners are bourgeois, but that what are table manners tends to be different according to one's position in the social order.
If you don't think table manners are bourgeois then you never really learned table manners
The elbows on the table thing, a more guarded way of eating, is associated with the lower class. From sailors to factory workers to the the homeless to miners to prisoners etc etc, who usually ate in cramped spaces shoulder to shoulder and/or are guarding their food would carry on this habit outside of said environment and the bourgeoisie didn't want to be associated with such behaviour.
I always ordered food off the menu that I know I either can’t cook myself or don’t have the time And patience for. Although I’ve ordered cheeseburgers from time to time.
Also making a single cheeseburger leaves you with a bunch of leftovers, or committing to eating cheeseburgers for a while, or being hideously inefficient buying ingredients
I've started cooking inhumanly large meals and freezing a bunch of them for depression days (also known as, days that end in 'y'). Works p good, even for stuff like burgers. I just pop 'em in the oven to defrost/reheat them.
I just did one of those it was hell. I had to eat some really nasty fucking vegan chicky tendies, but they were still edible, so...
edit: I'm actually insanely blessed to even have a chest freezer. I won it in a radio contest in 1999.
We have a small fridge that came with the rental split between 3 people. Fridge/freezer real estate is premium.
I'm guilty of a version of this where I go out to eat, really enjoy myself and the food and talk about how much I love it, then go "I bet I could knock this off at home" — is that obnoxious of me, should I try to stop doing it?
I've been a cool for a longass time and if you can knock it out at home, feel free. Less work for us. A lot of what the average person can't do compared to a pro is cook stuff really fucking fast, there's some things here and there that make a difference but speed is really the main thing. It's not magic.
There's definitely a level of personal satisfaction that comes with making a nice meal for yourself. You can also adjust things to be more in line with your personal taste. The important part is that you don't claim the experience was unnecessary or bad simply because you could theoretically make it yourself. There's a lot of value in seeing how someone else approaches a dish, and there's also the fact that you don't always have to put in the labor to have a quality meal
