A friend of mine (actually a friend, not me, I have known forever not to buy soda streams I PROMISE I'M NOT A LIB angry-hex ) wants to actually try to boycott Israeli products (finally). They have a soda stream though and they want to continue to use it, but they don't want to buy the cartridges from soda stream because they're don't want to support genocide. Since this is a noble goal I want to help them.

So what are their options, where do they buy cartridges for their soda stream that don't support literal genocide. This is their Very Important Treat and they really want their treat and we all deserve our treats so I'm trying to help them. Thank you.

Thanks everyone this was super helpful...looks like you just buy an adapter and then I've got a bunch of local brew stores that will fill the tank!

  • deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Unless you’re truly going to lead a boycott movement, this isn’t going to make a difference. Anything else was probably made in a sweatshop by the hands of heavily exploited workers. Enjoy your life.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      BDS is an organized boycott movement with clear demands and this would be part of that

      boycotts are a useful tool in concert with an organized political movement (like BDS or the striking workers at Kellogg's) but can be ultimately counterproductive when simply done as individual purchasing decisions:

      The revolution will not be bought: Ethical consumption is seductive but dangerous to the values ethical consumers seek to promote

      In short, a strong belief that ethical consumption will lead to ethical practices is not warranted – purchasing as voting is a weak feedback mechanism at best and there are other actors who are able to influence the system. The danger, however, comes in believing that this mechanism can make substantial political change. Ethical consumption gives the individual the illusion of contributing to progress; of “doing their part” by making purchasing decisions. This illusion can detract, and probably has detracted, from trying to put forward an avowedly political agenda that seeks to mobilise people collectively to make the changes they support. Instead, it individualises ethics, it individualises politics and it reaffirms us as consumers rather than citizens – it is a part of the profit-maximising, pathologically-externalising neoliberal market system that has caused many of the problems ethical consumerism seeks to alleviate, rather than being an alternative.

    • plinky [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Ah, the nihilism, the last refugee of a scoundrel.

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      5 months ago

      True, but if there is another option, then it makes sense to try to find it!

    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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      5 months ago

      No ethical consumption doesn't mean all consumption is equal, it means you'll never manage to reach full ethicality under capitalism. It is not free reign to consume as unethically as you like.

      • deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        Did I say that? My point is, good luck finding something that is as luxurious as a SodaStream built by anything but heavily exploited hands.