Lol nerds act like collapse means they can be le epic fallout survivor.
It actually means they will still have to go to work but while commuting increasingly shitty vehicles on increasingly destroyed roads, with the added increase of randomly getting robbed, gunned down, blown up, etc.
Medicine will be more scarce and much harder to get when you need it.
Gangs and cartels of all stripes will rise up and step in as the defacto government of many areas.
You will not be on top. You will not be a badass. You will suffer through a miserable, grief stricken life and then die unceremoniously of disease, random violence, or some accident probably brought on by eroding infrastructure or worker protections.
I remember some really horrific stories coming out of NOLA when Katrina hit. Nazi gangs were out in full force. THAT is collapse.
Literally the plot of Tom Clancy’s The Division, complete with a splinter faction of double CHUDs who plan on eradicating the original CHUDs.
range 15 is the most cursed shit on the planet, a bunch of chuds made a movie where they fantasize about literally raping and killing everyone they don't like. Not even zombie versions of people, just straight up people people.
it's like, have you ever watched a zombie movie and rolled your eyes at the gang members being cartoonishly over the top evil? Here's a group of these cartoonishly evil monsters making a movie about what they'd love to do if the society collapses and the cops aren't there to stop them.
It's going to be Mad Max: Fury Road for these dipshits. They'll line up for water as Immortan Musk pours water on them.
Gangs and cartels of all stripes will rise up and step in as the defacto government of many areas.
:wojak-nooo: No way man it's going to be great I'm going to join a local gang and beat up bad guys like Kazuma Kiryu
true but i was more mocking myself there for always looking for an excuse to go be kiryu
Love to experience a terrorist attack and still have to come to work, but I can take off because Baby Diego or some bullshit.
Anybody thinking collapse will be fun ought to watch Children of Men
Welcome to the end of the world. Your hours are 9-5 and you get 4 week's holiday a year.
So it'll basically be the global north living like how much of the global south does.
I mean, I'm enjoying it in the sense that seeing capitalism fail in real time is kind of cathartic. The consequences are gonna fuckin suck, though.
Also WHAT rural land? Going to take a quick jog to Vermont or something?
no, you see, I'll become a farmer, using my exactly zero knowledge of how agriculture works
crop rotation? irrigation? pest control? what are those, don't you just put the seeds in the ground and then they grow, that's how it works right?
I knew a guy who thought he'd be able to handle a nuclear holocaust because he could hunt deer lmao
And theyll definitely be the "purge the nonpures (nonwhites) from the wastelands" types
I need to read that one. I finished Kindred and I loved that so much.
I can start @dudes_eating_beans @Alex_Jones i can start a discussion megathread on parable.
I got into this podcast called Octavia's Parables that discussed Sower and Talents, chapter by chapter. It was nice.
I'd love that. Her work is amazing and the more people knowing about it, the better.
They always see themselves as part of the surviving 10% instead of one of the corpses that died first.
It's like when you see people fantasizing about the Fallout setting too.
A few weeks back some bazinga brains were talking about the necessary human casualties to get people to Mars with Elon Musk. Disgusting because it was them justifying the exploitation of the global south and stupid because they failed to realize that Musk and people like him see that user and everyone else as equally expendable. You'd think covid would show them that.
didn't noted paedophile spez also say he would put bomb collars on mercenaries to ensure they are loyal to him?
as if they wouldn't just torture him to death and take all his shit lmao
Not familiar with him outside of his job and this "yeah i'd be a warlord" bit. How so?
Well, for a long time they openly condoned blatant racism, idiot went so far as to say
On Reddit, the way in which we think about speech is to separate behavior from beliefs. This means on Reddit there will be people with beliefs different from your own, sometimes extremely so. When users actions conflict with our content policies, we take action. Our approach to governance is that communities can set appropriate standards around language for themselves. Many communities have rules around speech that are more restrictive than our own, and we fully support those rules.
I think in the wake of summer 2020 they started getting more restrictive when they realized that policy was going to hurt them more than it would help.
Reddit also, years back, had a sub called r/jailbait which was creepshots of women/girls of uncertain age. The guy who founded that sub got an award for helping drive site traffic, before they tossed him under the bus when major media got wind of this.
Guy's also a libertarian techbro, which basically explains all of it
Genius: "I will hire mercenaries to protect me in the event of an apocalypse who will be capable of keeping me safe via force"
Also genius: "I will ensure their loyalty to me by forcing them to wear explosive collars"
Who will be forcing who to wear them in this scenario bro lmao
I avoided 76 like the plague after reading about it, so I'm not surprised the playerbase is that bad. But yeah, warping the themes so badly about nuclear war was such a disappointing move.
And the :reddit-logo: CEO is just as depraved as I thought. LMAO good luck when people just shit in his air vents.
It's so fucking bizarre. They play these games where they don't have to answer to anyone and then turn around and think that means being a grunt for Musk or whatever. What zero theory does to a motherfucker.
It's such sad, delusional fanfiction. The highest they can aspire towards is a faceless gunman and even then, you'd think they would listen to a single person who works for musk at any level.
The fact that fascism is a death cult that eventually destroys itself makes it no less terrifying. It's why we have to stomp it out where we can. I'm just glad we have a community here that's actually anti-fascist.
Lol in reality HARD DECISIONS would b whether to plant potatoes or squash this season and GETTING SHIT DONE would be digging the rubble out the reclaimed field without use of heavy machinery.
Picturing Musk's private paramilitary having to piss in bottles because they don't get paid to take real bathroom breaks. And then half of them die of a mysterious Martian dick fungus, because they also don't get paid to wash their hands after pissing in bottles.
He also bragged about getting surgical vision correction
:Khmer-Rouge-anti-eye-lasers:
TVTropes of all places had a good thing to say about this, in its article on Threads:
After all the nukes drop, there won't even be the violent glamor of Fallout or Mad Max style adventures; we'll all just die. And it wouldn't be a quick death either.
I genuinely think that watching Threads as a child - while probably somewhat traumatic - helped me avoid the worst of the 'I'd be an awesome badass in the apocalypse' brainworms lmao (even though I do still play post apocalypse videogames and the like). Being generally a bit of a pessimist and having a bunch of chronic conditions/illnesses probably contributed, too.
What's always fucking hillarious is the actual skills you need to survive something like the collapse of society; emotional intelligence, the ability to play nicely with others and resillience are skills that yer average redditor barely recognises let alone has.
While the country is still functional: :so-true: wow this collapse is really fun!
When the country breaks into 3rd world nations each having a civil war amongst fascists: :wojak-nooo: what do you mean they don't ship ps5s to the Christian Fundamentalist Republic of Texas
Dudes under the age of 30 think that all it takes to become Batman is for ninjas to kill their parents
Dudes over the age of 30 just want to mow down protestors because Sizzlers closes at 9 goddammit!
Until a man is twenty-five, he still thinks, every so often, that under the right circumstances he could be the baddest motherfucker in the world. If I moved to a martial-arts monastery in China and studied real hard for ten years. If my family was wiped out by Colombian drug dealers and I swore myself to revenge. If I got a fatal disease, had one year to live, and devoted it to wiping out street crime. If I just dropped out and devoted my life to being bad.
Yeah some guys seem to never move past that stage. I read it when I was like 22 and it really struck me. I was definitely one of those guys who thought I could be a super badass unlike all the other sheep around me. That quote hit me hard as it made me realize I wasn't special at all, it honestly changed my out look on life.
Good ol' Snow Crash
Neal Stephenson knocked it out of the park with that one
I need to check that one out. I read Seveneves and it was really cool and weird but the ending kinda gave me :sus-deep: vibes when they
spoiler
decide to do extreme eugenics for some very ambiguous reasons and it never seems like there was a critique of that fact it just happens
Be forewarned there is a :libertarian-approaching: moment (age of consent and otherwise questionable consent)
Disclaimer: haven't read the linked thread
I kinda get why people fantasize about it — life in the imperial core (esp America) under late capitalism is deeply unsatisfying at its best, and I don't really blame anyone who will happily accept any scenario that will allow them to be free of it. Putting your labor into your survival is less alienating than updating spreadsheets all day every day for 40 years, wondering what's gonna make next year worse than this year while the planet boils and everyone talks about it but no one seems to care. There's the hope that if everything goes to shit enough, people will come to their senses and start working together for common survival. It's like wanting to rip the bandaid off and finally face everything that keeps you up at night.
People get it wrong when they think they're gonna be king of the wasteland and there's def a lot of fash fantasizing about murdering people with impunity which is obviously bad, but I empathize with the "wouldn't it be so much nicer to spend my days digging outhouse holes to shit in than getting screamed at by boomers over treats every day until I die" sentiment
It’s like wanting to rip the bandaid off and finally face everything that keeps you up at night.
This is it for me. I'm poor as fuck, my job isn't super alienating although while I do manage a store that feeds people my real purpose just seems to be getting paid a little extra to be a (in the case of an incident that happened last week LITERALLY) punching bag between the customers and the owners.
At the same time I understand the totality of imperialism and global capitalism and while I don't yearn for apocalypse I can't say I don't fantasize about the localized one that would be the implosion of the US.
Because it would finally bring all the privileged assholes down to a relatively even playing field and it's likely the only way any of the most ghoulish will ever face any suffering or consequences, at the same time I acknowledge how bad it will be for already vulnerable people here but any and all comforts any of us have in the imperial core are predicated on the immense human suffering we cause abroad (fuck utilitarianism as an ideology but I think this is a useful case for applying its logic).
My job is to trick people into giving the business I work for their boss's money. I am literally a propaganda artist, only it's for the dumbest shit imaginable. It's incredibly alienating, so I just hide pictures of Mao in the background of my marketing pieces and collect my paycheck. I posted a Soviet WWII memorial to our LinkedIn page on Veterans Day and nobody noticed.
And so yeah, a small part of me fantasizes about a world where jobs like this no longer exist, regardless of how it happens. I imagine living in a burnt out bank and growing a community garden on the roof. I imagine traveling across the barren country to find my friends so we can organize. The violence is in the backdrop, but fighting for survival still sounds more emotionally fulfilling than counting down the days until my next three day weekend. I recognize that's not the reality of collapse, though.
Realistically, I'd probably start having seizures as soon as the supply line goes down. Maybe I'd get lucky and detox from my meds safely, but I'd still be largely useless until the discontinuation symptoms passed. If I were to make it this far, the one survival-relevant skill I'm pretty good at is raising and breeding fish, so my only real hope would be finding a well-armed community in need of a fish monger. Any takers?
:solidarity:
A better world is possible. The collapse is gonna happen eventually, I hold out hope we can prepare and organize sufficiently in the meantime because anything else is :doomjak:
Oh yeah the whole great leveller fantasy is appealing. It's kinda funny tho that redditors tend to be the kinda petit borgousie fucksticks or the kids of said fucksticks who are gonna find out the hard way that the vast comforting walls of privelage that seperate them from the lower classes mean fuck all come that sort of collapse.
Because it would finally bring all the privileged assholes down to a relatively even playing field and it’s likely the only way any of the most ghoulish will ever face any suffering or consequences
There's an excellent reggae song about this exact feeling.
The idea that state collapse will be anything other than bloody and terrifying is delusional, but tbh I get the appeal of the sentiment. We're living, have been living, through a slow collapse anyway. One that will only get worse and worse as the decades drag on, with all avenues to avoid collapse foreclosed. There's a catharsis in thinking, "let's just get it over with already."
It's like being the watchman on the Titanic: you know the ship is gonna hit the iceberg, and you know no one will do anything to help the situation until the iceberg has already been hit. So you're cursed to just watch doom approaching, screaming and shouting warnings like a loon that everyone will ignore so they can keep playing cards in the cafe.
"Wow innocent people dying and suffering is sooo fun! :so-true: "
How about this: collapse will be brutal to live and die through but if it happens soon enough in the imperial core it could be pretty cool for people in other places, and so yeah maybe I am excited for it.
:anarxi:
If you aren't in a compound with the comrades, with numerous blankets and warmth, is your society really collapsed?
I think some of this obsession with collapse also has to do with the fact that Americans really haven't known the kind of societal breakdown that you see in other countries. It's something unknown and exotic for them, in the same way that all those soldiers were pumped going into WW1, all believing they would be fighting in a conventional war and coming back heroes, not knowing what was waiting in the trenches.
I wish I lacked critical thinking skills where I can see the collapse as a fucking playground. I can’t even enjoy the non-collapsed privileged life I am experiencing as of right now cause I keep thinking about how climate change is gonna ravage it all. Like I had aspirations of enrolling into an Art Program after my master’s program is over and I’m wondering if there’ll even be a point to it.
I'm not delusional enough to think collapse could benefit me in any real way, but I hope to survive long enough to watch Americans drown in the oceans of blood they've created.
Collapse for the poor, entertainment and a normal day for the rich, reason 5000 why reddit's r/collapse never sees collapse even when its in front of them.
Yeah america will just continue to become more like a place like Brazil: plenty of well guarded rich people, and huge favelas/homeless camps/prisons/tenements for the poor. Etc.
