That’s 60% of global ammonium nitrate production, just in time for planting season. Someone better at the economy than me tell me what this means for food prices… :biden-fall:

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Since we live in the dumbest timeline, WWIII over fertilizer sounds about right.

    • grendahlgrendahlgen [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Synthetic ammonium nitrate was first mass-produced for bombs in WWI, so it'd be a poetic conclusion of this truly demonic historical cycle.

  • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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    3 years ago

    This seems bad.

    Like I’m all :amerikkka: like the rest of us, but food prices going up is gonna fuck EVERYONE up.

    • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      there's no way around it though, besides forced equitable distribution of food. there's a real shortage in fertilizer right now.

  • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Last August, the Food and Agricultural Policy Research Institute in Missouri projected only a 10% increase in fertilizer prices in its forecast model, but recent spot prices have forecasts reaching as high as 80% more for the 2022 planting season. Source

    and that was before this...
    Noodles are gonna get pricey, huh?

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      During WW2, the cringly named "Freedom Farms" at their peak produced half of all the vegetables in the United States. Just remember that you can grow a significant portion of your veggies for yourself in a relatively short time frame

          • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Ooh yeah high temperature composting is a very cool technology. Seems difficult to dial in to keep safe and consistent. It’s something I’d like to get into if I had more than one life to live. Such a compelling process engineering challenge!

            • D61 [any]
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              3 years ago

              Using alcohol to make "pickled people poop" actually would be a way to make human feces safer to add to a back yard compost.

                • D61 [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  For this scenario, it doesn't matter. All you're wanting is to reduce the e.coli and parasite load in human feces to make it safer to handle during composting. You can make alcohol from wood chips if you wanted, but if you're trying to do this entirely on your own its a process. If you were living in a more communal setting though, it would be easier to do.

                  The "time efficient" thing can be a bit sticky and kinda gets me too when I think about composting toilets out at the farm.

                    • D61 [any]
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                      3 years ago

                      Yeah, trying to compost human waste in small scale, quickly and safely, to use on food crops is something that takes a bit of fore though and planning. And I'd bet it would always be a bit weird when guests came over.

                      For small scale stuff... It seems easier to just have animals turning grass into poop where the parasites shared between people and the animal are fewer so I can just shovel the poop into piles mixed with grass and just poke at it every few days.

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Well it’s a good thing rising food prices aren’t correlated with civil and political unrest or anything like that, otherwise this could get ugly

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    :stonks-up: for food prices. either russia is dealing with export capital typical shenanigans - sorry they pay better prices over there, fuck your harvest - or it’s pressure on the west, which would be inhumane.

    I think it’s the first though

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      or it’s pressure on the west, which would be inhumane.

      You're not wrong, but it's kind of like complaining that your adversary in war has started doing war crimes back to you in response to your war crimes. We have people like Madeline Albright go on TV and say it's worth it for a million Iraqi kids to die as a result of sanctions as long as it makes Saddam unpopular. If the same tactics start driving up malnutrition at home, well, this is the game they chose to play.

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Sure, as inter-empire shit, all is ”fair” in war, but it wouldn’t even hurt “enemies”, it would drive malnutrition in india and other monocrop/industrial crop countries, cause highest bidder would always be the west :deeper-sadness:

    • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      nah check out global fertilizer prices. they're just stopping their capitalists from selling their fertilizer at the highest bidder instead of selling it to local farmers at more reasonable prices so they can grow and sell food at reasonable prices

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    Good thing my mom already hoards boxes of lasagna noodles for some reason.

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Putin is becoming an annoying organic food guy, he won't eat food with synthetic fertilizer and neither will the rest of the world