terminally online shit ikr

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's awesome that politics has reached the point (and it's obviously been like this for a while) where the events and the motivations of the people behind those events and forming a systematic view of the world isn't what's actually important, it's just a bubble of terminally online people in western nations who are forming followings/fanbases/cults/whatever around specific personalities on websites.

    Like, we, as broadly working class or maybe precarious middle class capitalist subjects living in America, have absolutely zero impact whatsoever on what goes on in Ukraine and Russia and China and so on, even theoretically through the classic lib shit of "You should do more than just voting! Write to your senator! :so-true:" as that is so pointless that it obviously isn't worth the effort of even mentally considering it let alone actually doing it.

    So all we have left is to just suffer at our workplaces under corporate totalitarianism and then go home and post online like "Wow, it looks like Dunglebungle655 had a great few sentences on the Ukraine situation on Twitch! This is so much better than JooperJoop92's take. And man, have you seen RedPongle444's meltdown yesterday where he said that Putin might have a point?! It's a freaking oligarchy, sweetie! Doesn't sound like a left take to me! I give Dungle a based rating of 95% (the whole scandal he had earlier was kinda embarrassing but he's making up for it), Jooper a based rating of 25%, and Red? Honestly probably a fed, so fuck him and his subreddit!"

    • supersaiyan [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I came across a person who calls themself a capitalist communist, and they were serious about it. They even wrote a paper about it during college class which I know about it because they got into fights with a teacher over it.

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Was it just outright Nazbol shit or was it some kind of bazingabrained "Capitalism is when you have freedom and some people are rich and most are poor, and communism is where there's no freedom and everybody is poor but at least there's equality, so what we need is communism but with more freedom and where everybody is middle-class!" thing

        • supersaiyan [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It talked about giving everyone an equal chance in a hierarchy for example the government would mandate who is rich or poor on a certain week, and why this could be a classless society because no one would be really be rich or oppressive because the government would give everyone a chance.

          Its sort of like the war draft system, but for deciding what part of the hierarchy you would be in for a week.

          • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            This is a political idea you have when you first gain political consciousness at like 15 years old and hold that as a viewpoint in order to express that you're capable of being politically imaginative (AKA not a sheeple) to your peers, but then a week later go "nah, that's fucking stupid actually"

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            That's weird, but at least it wasn't quite as stupid as :melon-musk: 's "ironic unless" take that Marx was a capitalist because he wrote a book about capital and that the good kind of socialism is the one that makes the rich richer.

          • reddit [any,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Spinning a wheel to see who gets a mega yacht this week and who can't afford insulin

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          My best guess was that it was :melon-musk: style gross misunderstanding of socialism, and capitalism for that matter.

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        they got into fights with a teacher over it

        I'm imagining those went like every single other time I ever saw some douche student try to argue with a professor and I'm enjoying the thought of a classroom full of people getting annoyed and telling the student to just shut the hell up already

    • mittens [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      where the events and the motivations of the people behind those events and forming a systematic view of the world isn’t what’s actually important

      No political analysis literally just vibes. He pretty much says he FEELS Russia is like an abusive husband. Really these kind of leftists doing this kind of analysis where they characterize the US as their dad and Russia as their estranged uncle would be doing not only everyone else a favor by stopping, they'd also be helping their damaged psyches.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      Why are these voices currently the dominant voices? Have they ever not been? How does it end?

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ah yes, the calipers enjoyer who rose to fame via reblogging thunderf00t and donoteat videos.

    I get it, the original videos should have been shorter, but it's insane how he has no OC beyond the Bucharest metro station with the narrow platforms.

  • Tervell [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    man, I bet the :wtyp-gang: are feeling real great about the episode they did with him, it's aging like milk sat right next to highly-radioactive material

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      He did something really embarrassing within a week and they said they regretted having him on, lol.

      • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        "The Soviet Union almost joined the Axis because they were actually Red Fash. Let me double down by complaining about the invasion of Hungary in WW2, which was an actual Axis power but whatever. Also I'm bothered by the word 'administration' for some reason."

          • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Here's the old post on it if you or anybody else want to hate read: https://hexbear.net/post/139395

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        They doubled down the next episode. it was only a few weeks later when Alice lowkey said she was embarrassed. Which when you let someone do fucking race science and apologetics for Lebensraum for over an hour and don't seriously confront them on that but just let the other host nod along, embarrassment or regret dont cut it

      • Tervell [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think Alice said something about being embarassed by the episode, but I'm not sure on which episode it was, I don't really listen to WTYP regularly. Considering how eager Liam was to join in on the "red fash tankie" stuff Adam was going on about, I doubt he feels all that bad.

      • Tervell [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        this also peeves me about Trashfuture. I wish I could just get the great Milo bits without all the weird takes on China and the Soviets

  • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Hassan simply does not understand that the Russian brain pan isn’t properly developed for governance like Adam does.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is barely irony. I'm pretty sure Hungarians genuinely dislike Slavs and view them as inferior to other/"proper" Europeans.

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        Not even, he outright said Russians didn't get the enlightenment and thus are inferior

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Imagine being unimpressed with a country going from serfdom to being the first country in space and the first to send probes to the moon, Venus, and Mars.

          • Vncredleader
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            3 years ago

            He is terrified of that. Its why working with the Nazis is a past he can defend or justify, but the existence of soviet Hungary fills him with hatred. He legit refers to Slavs as lesser, its the same reason the success of African nations doesn't fill their former colonizers with any good feelings

    • DrumpfYouABusta [any]
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      3 years ago

      Why not just a personal block list so that you don't have to see the people dunking on V but V can still be ceaselessly ridiculed. Ignoring people without a platform is a good way to prevent the growing if their platform but it doesn't really do anything to break down a platform that is already stable beneath them.

    • mittens [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think we did great progress in containing everything Vaush related to the dunk tank. Really, this is unprecedented levels of webforum discipline to me.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Way for him to tell on himself by announcing that V*ush has good takes.

    :funny-clown-hammer:

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah. Shocking that a self admitted 'former' libertarian/right winger agrees with someone who specifically caters to 'former' white supremacists pretending to be leftists.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Hi there partner, looks like you got a bit of regular fascism in your social fascism again. :brace-cowboy:

  • ChairmanSpongebob [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    99.999% of Americans should just shut the fuck up when it comes to foreign policy. We don't know anything about it, and what we do think we know is actually completely wrong.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Holy shit I am so happy I do not know any of their viewpoints on this. Have I grown as a person? Wow.

    • CyberMao [it/its]
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      3 years ago

      Hasan’s is actually pretty good. But congrats. Definitely healthier that way

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Vaush thinks Poland joined NATO because "they're afraid of russia" lmao, and that "we" (meaning, he and the US) should bleed out Russia with sanctions (Oh yes that has always worked lmfao)

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      TIL from TrueAnon the significant growth as well as the robustness of the modern Russian domestic economy.

      Sanctions don't quite work if your country is self-sufficient and your only exports are highly lucrative and fungible.

    • Mike_Penis [any]
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      3 years ago

      i mean nato exists to shit on russia so why else would a country that's right next to russia join nato other than for some anti russian reason