• SerLava [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Before shooting shirtless scenes, male actors have to severely dehydrate themselves starting several days before filming. Their skin loses so much moisture it becomes thinner, forming a tighter contour onto the muscles.

    The actors themselves only look like this for 12 or so hours every few weeks at most.

    It's literally less realistic than makeup

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I think they have to rehydrate with an IV drip after and they're like, basically fainting the whole timr

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            I remember the Rob Mac thing. Semi related but when he got fat for season 8 he started on a plan to do so as healthy as possible which was basically eating full chicken and broccoli meal every hour or so. He lost patience and just ate McDonalds all the time for like, a month

            • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Well first thing, through God all things are possible, so jot that down.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                Duly jotted. Kaitlyn Olsen on Fat Mac: "Did I enjoy my husband intentionally gaining sixty pounds in as series of months for more or less no reason? Did I prefer it when he was sweating a lot and snoring all night?"

          • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Lifting for 6 days a week is terrible for muscle growth. I guess you could split it into isolation lifts for two offset three day splits, but your body can't build muscle without a good amount of rest. Pretty sure Rob was experienced at lifting before this so it probably made more sense to do isolation exercises rather than compound lifts, which would be dangerous and counterproductive to do 6 days per week. If you're new to fitness, how you start out depends on your current state, but for most people that are either skinny, "skinnyfat" or mildly overweight, you should do compound lifts 3 days a week with one day in between gym days where you do cardio on off days (but don't overdo it). Eating no carbs is fucking dumb btw. The only problem with carbs is Americans eat way too many and the worst kind that leave you hungry an hour after eating 800 cals. Brown rice, sweet potatoes, whole grain bread are all great carb sources that haven't been stripped of all nutrients. Just don't eat donuts and pizza all the time.

            Also, he's leaving out the gear. I know plenty of extremely disciplined natural bodybuilders and you don't make a transformation like that without gear. He had to build muscle and lose fat simultaneously. That is possible but it takes twice as long as bulking and cutting. He was likely on a nice cocktail of roids and stuff to offset the negative side effects of roids. It's way more common in Hollywood than people will ever admit.

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Totally worth it to make 7 billion people deeply insecure about how their body is supposed to look

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Bodybuilding competitions are the same thing, you don't eat or drink before a competition because being dehydrated accentuates muscles. Fighters also fast and dehydrate themselves before a weigh-in, but that's a little different (in terms of purpose, it's still not great physically/mentally).

        • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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          3 years ago

          It would be so trivial to change the weigh-in rules, prevent a lot of suffering and probably get better fights too

  • clover [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Aren't literally all of the male MCU actors on record about how much of a pain in the ass it is to maintain that physique

    • Bulma [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      All on steroids too and also prob either finasteride or hair plugs

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        * constantly dehydrated and on a bunch of pills that might destroy my heart * I'm actually at peak shape, basically the healthiest human alive.

    • fox [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      They can only eat unseasoned chicken breast and can only drink the water that condenses on the windows, yep

          • BigAssBlueBug [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Ooooh. My favorite take from there is that neurodivergent men aren't worth your time. It's alsoreally cool how it's one of the posts that pops up if you search "neurodivergent" in redidits search functions

            • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              i think the only time redditors aren't ableist is when they're too busy being nationalist, transphobic or both.

            • Trouble [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              We'll use the right term for u while explaining how u are subhuman and can be written off as a person without any thought. Liberals.

      • ToastGhost [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        saw a post there saying if your man doesnt propose within 6 months hes an unserious manchild and you should dump him

        found this post sorting top all time

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I can't help but wonder if that sub is mostly populated by men pretending to be women trying to make women look bad. Not saying that women are immune to being assholes, but it is :reddit-logo: after all, so I definitely wouldn't be surprised.

    • Circra [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'm sure there are a few men pretending on there but I have come across women before who genuinely hold these kinds of views. They're super rare for sure but let's face it so are incels and there's enough of them to form various communities.

      One thing I've noticed in both is they seem to have developed this really weird and toxic ideology that really does seem to have a lot of its roots in the increasing commodification of everything including relationships. I'm not saying it's the biggest cause or even a cause at all but a lot of the weirder shit seems to almost be an attempt to use something like I dunno a marketing algorythm or something.

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I've seen more than a few mayos pretending to be creepy Indians, not that creepy Indian people obviously don't exist

      I'd wager it's pretty common on here too

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      sometimes some women are in fact bad. like they believe wrong silly things on occasion. the internet makes this phenomenon more frequent among people of all genders.

  • HexbearIntern [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    If anyone is unaware, this is not how fat naturally distributes on a naturally active person. Those who focus more on running long distances will become very lean, but not get the definition like this. And people who are focused on more stationary heavy labor (moving boxes, blacksmithing, etc) end up stocky with what we in the fat-obsessed west would call “a gut”. Look up pictures of people competing in strongman competitions. They are some of strongest people in the world, but a lot of them would be described as “chubby” by western beauty standards.

    Body builders, meanwhile, call it “sculpting” for a reason. They are on some level trading off strength for definition, to make it more aesthetically pleasing by our beauty standards. I don’t know much about the personal training regiments that blockbuster movie productions employ, but I would guess they make similar tradeoffs despite not needing to get actors near the size of those who compete in worldwide competitions

    More here (from the discourse on whether or not Maui from Moana was fat): https://rosworms.tumblr.com/post/153927433968/maui-is-not-obese

    • Grownbravy [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Weird take but it seems like the one most consequential things modern society and captialism itself took from people of its interior is the idea that our bodies can actually do things.

    • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      There are absolutely people who look like this without stepping foot in the gym or paying a single iota of attention to what they eat, but it's only because of their very specific lifestyles. You won't find them in the west, but in places like Africa you will see guys who are admittedly not as big as him but just as lean and with more lean muscle mass than the average westerner. I've been to South Africa and seen guys who were miners for a living and ate a diet that was high in lean protein like eggs, fish and poultry and do physical labor all day and walk around at like 8% body fat. It's not because they care about their appearance and count calories etc, but just because they're too poor to afford addictive processed foods, are extremely active by necessity and by trial and error realize that lean protein makes you feel full for longer.

      This is completely unrealistic in the west and many other places though because our diets are made up of processed foods stripped of micronutrients and packed with the addictive compounds that make us want to consume more (sugar, fat and salt). Also in the west, our lives are just less active. I work in construction and while I am definitely more active than the average westerner, it's nothing compared to people in underdeveloped countries. For instance, obesity wasn't a huge thing in Mexico until food corporations expanded there and got everyone hooked on processed garbage, and now they're fatter than the US. Corporations have stolen our health from us and got us addicted to unhealthy food.

  • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Also have an extremely strict diet and get 8+ hours of sleep every night. Most guys this jacked are also on some kind of gear, but it's possible without it. It will take years of training and strict diet if you're not on gear though. Much easier to go from skinnyfat to this in 9 months by blasting trenbolone and feeling like an angry, sex crazed psychopath and maybe ending up in prison at some point.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Most guys this jacked are also on some kind of gear, but it’s possible without it.

      I dated a girl who got into body building. She did a bunch of working out and dieting through her training cycle, but what really made everything pop was the last few days of dehydration.

      Like, even without steroids and hormones, you can gain muscle mass steadily. But you don't look like an action star until you suck all that water out from under your skin.

      • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The dehydration thing is definitely real, and I'm sure a lot of actors do it, but you can definitely achieve a physique like the one in the photo without it. It's different for women/afab people because their bodies naturally store more fat. The dude in the photo is probably about 8-10% body fat which is completely achievable and healthy without dehydration, but it requires a very specific diet, exercise and sleep regimen. Professional bodybuilders usually walk around at a body fat percentage like that and then dry themselves out to 4-6% which is not healthy at all. It's also very common in combat sports with weight classes. Fighters will drop 20+lbs in water weight for a weigh in, sometimes barely able to stand up just to be in a lower weight class, and then spend the next few days refeeding on pasta, pizza and tons of water.

        Water weight is pretty wild when you think about it. The more carbs you consume the more water weight you hold on to. When I was into fitness, I'd weigh in at 165 on Friday morning after a week of eating right and working out and then I'd get shit faced and eat pizza and burgers and weigh 172 by Saturday night, only to be back to 165 by Tuesday without restrictive eating. It was just a ton of water weight from carbs and alcohol. You sweat and piss it all out. It's also why people drop a lot of weight fast when they go on keto or quit drinking. They lose their water weight but not really their body fat.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Fds is such as trip. Also pretty sure Disney gives him hardcore drugs to look like that

    Kinda gotta be a genetic freak to look like thst naturally with low time investment. Bf has also been exercising since he was 16 and has an impressive look about him but that's what you get after 10+ years of investment without drugs . He still has a belly (with abs which is hot af I uh lick them all the time) when not cutting cause cutting is hell

  • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Critical support for Jason Mamoa who had to stop drinking water for days to look shredded in Aquaman and almost died.

  • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Steroids and severe dehydration or photoshop is the only way you will ever look like that.

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    most men are indeed slobs but in their defense capitalism no time united states 1 million dead and also it's really hard to look like this

  • supersaiyan [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This subreddit has interesting lore it started as a pinkpillfeminism offshoot, and with some femcels which they called themself that. The pinkpillers use to support FDS with everything, but the subreddit mods betrayed them, and start to embrace lookism, and started to focus more appearance more.

    • Wogre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      What is pinkpillfeminism? More Redpill shit but for women?

      • supersaiyan [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        pinkpillfeminism is partly nihilist because they believe men are mostly unredeemable, and is into lookism which you can from what FDS does with lookism. Some femcels disagree with that, but stay in that subreddit before it got banned because their femcel subreddit got banned, and they have some shared ideas.

        While blackpillfeminism is extremely nihilistic because they believe the "male sex" is literal parasite because of some evolution theory, and think most women are "pickmes". Here is quote that explain their ideology in their own words "Equality is a lie. Feminism is a scam and failed movement. We are heading towards misogynist dystopia and there is nothing we can do about it.".

        • meltingsunbeam [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          judging by your knowledge, you've been around those places, huh? I like to think of FDS as a weird PUA thing for Facebook moms, it's not "femcel" worthy yet

            • supersaiyan [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              No there not femcels, but they originate from that community they use to call men moids early in the subreddit history. Lots of overlap.

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I mean, yeah, but if your doing it 3x a week, that's a 6hr a week hobby for 3 years or however long it takes you to look strong, and honestly if my mental health wasn't dependent on it I'd probably be doing other shit.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      In order for your abs to show like that, you need to have 9% body fat and/or be cutting serious water weight. It's not achievable as a 6hr a week hobby.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think it depends on the person, I get that kind of showing around 15% bodyfat, without a water cut, on average putting in 6 hours a week. I think it's really about genetics, where you hold fat, your insertions, what kind of bodyfat percentage you're used to, etc.

    • footfaults [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It's pretty wild that 6hrs a week is a "hobby" - not that your wrong but I think the word hobby doesn't convey the amount of time people invest in things, and how little free time we all have

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Right, like, I do this shit because I cannot regulate my mood or sleep without it. This and mushrooms are what I do instead of anxiety meds. I also don't have time to watch movies, go for hikes, read (except for work and school), any of that fun shit, because I'm spending the equivalent of an hour a day staring at a squat rack and picking shit up.

        • footfaults [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I stare at a target I have taped to a wall and draw my pistol at it hundreds of times for 30 minutes a day, five times a week for the past 5 years so I can do gooder at a dumb sport (USPSA) so I totally feel you

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Look at the muscles between his neck and shoulders (traps I think in English), them coming out like that is almost always a sign of steroid use unless you've been going to the gym super hard for years on end.

    Being super vascular and/or having super low body fat percentage while being bodybuilder big is another sign, unless you have super genetics

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'm natty and my traps are my best muscle. It's really just genetics in a lot of cases.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        True, I've added that caveat, but this is also a Hollywood movie star (I think), almost none of them are natural.

        Also his right shoulder (left from our point of view) goes down before it goes up. Unless it's a wacky camera angle it's uhh yeah

      • cybernetsoc [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Also types of workout. I know I got big traps from climbing and I believe surfing will do it, which Hemsworth does a lot. But I am sure he does roids too.

        • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I'd kill someone for surfer delts tbh. As it is, I'm not super interested in driving out to the Oregon coast to dip into 40 degree water.

          Climbing would explain it, I climb from time to time, ruck a lot, and use pull ups as my main back movement.