considering the t-90 is just a reworked t-72 with modern materials, optics and electronics i would disagree. the t-80 line was a dead end so they went back to basics after the panic from the iraqis getting smashed in '91 died down. people realized the steel tipped AP rounds didn't have a chance to beat M1 armor and the export models were pretty questionable to begin with.
a principle of tank warfare is that who shoots first often wins the fight, and everything the russians put into modernizing the t-72 line works towards that concept.
I'm not OP, and my specialization is in WW2 Naval gunnery and not land combat. With that said, I believe that the T-80's issues are that it's simply not quite as economic as the T-72 series, uses more fuel, and tended to need much more maintenance because of the gas-turbine engine compared to other Soviet designs. It was mostly for those economic reasons that the Russians dropped it as a developmental base after the fall of the union, as there weren't any funds left to maintain them. With that said, the Tank still had unmatched tactical maneuverability for its time, and I believe its reputation was largely tarnished by how hard the Russian forces got owned by ex-Soviet Chechen forces in the Battle of Grozny. The T-80 series is still getting modernisations though, and I believe the Armata series is a pretty large departure from the T-72/T-90s anyways.
I heard the modded t-72s were good and the t-90s were trash, that wrong?
considering the t-90 is just a reworked t-72 with modern materials, optics and electronics i would disagree. the t-80 line was a dead end so they went back to basics after the panic from the iraqis getting smashed in '91 died down. people realized the steel tipped AP rounds didn't have a chance to beat M1 armor and the export models were pretty questionable to begin with.
a principle of tank warfare is that who shoots first often wins the fight, and everything the russians put into modernizing the t-72 line works towards that concept.
This sounds fascinating and I'd love to learn more. What were the problems with the T-80?
I'm not OP, and my specialization is in WW2 Naval gunnery and not land combat. With that said, I believe that the T-80's issues are that it's simply not quite as economic as the T-72 series, uses more fuel, and tended to need much more maintenance because of the gas-turbine engine compared to other Soviet designs. It was mostly for those economic reasons that the Russians dropped it as a developmental base after the fall of the union, as there weren't any funds left to maintain them. With that said, the Tank still had unmatched tactical maneuverability for its time, and I believe its reputation was largely tarnished by how hard the Russian forces got owned by ex-Soviet Chechen forces in the Battle of Grozny. The T-80 series is still getting modernisations though, and I believe the Armata series is a pretty large departure from the T-72/T-90s anyways.
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