The collapse of the Soviet Union and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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https://twitter.com/brechtcastel/status/1509547180402647051

Reposting this because I think it really illustrates how blatantly outright propagandistic and thought terminating the "debunking" thing is. 90% of this thread is about conclusively proving that not only are Ukranians lynching Roma, but they are lynching Roma in the westernmost part of Ukraine, and they are lynching them right now, and this in fact has been going on for 4 whole years before the invasion.

But, just by bolting on a bullshit entirely unsourced claim that "Russian propaganda" says these are ethnic Russians held as human shields(RT's article on the matter literally says the exact same conclusion as this whole thread), this is now turned from a thread documenting the fascist tendencies in Ukranian society into a thread about THE TRUTH and DEBUNKING RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION.

And if you'll look in the QRTs theres a flood of people who either have not even read the thread, or turn off their brains the second they see its about "debunking Russia" praising this thread for "conclusively debunking" a claim that the thread doesnt even prove exists in reality. All you have to do is say you have debunked a "russian claim" and libs will instantly accept it because it means they dont have to consider any problematic facts, or they will in fact chant about how its good that Roma are being lynched because actually, they could have just shot them in the streets for "looting"(Again, I have never seen this idea backed up with facts that its ok to shoot people in the streets on random suspicion of stealing food, and I suspect thats because its not real and is fucking criminal).

There is absolutely no critical thinking involved when libs read and share these debunking threads, no information has been absorbed outside of "use this as a weapon and browbeat people into submission with it".

Oof. Got permabanned from /r/worldnews.

Edit: Asked why, they told me "trolling other users", which I wasn't doing, then they immediately muted me so I couldn't respond.

I will be away for the next week (not due to fatigue on these posts or anything, if anything it's the opposite). The schedule for this will get wacky. Worst case scenario, I won't have the wifi nor the time to do any posts and you'll see me when I'm back. Best case, the updates will continue mostly as planned but almost certainly at different times than normal (probably later in the day). Probably something in between the best and worst case. I'm not going to pretend like these are particularly important or anything, but I know that at least some people like them and find them useful, so I thought I'd just let people know. Regardless, I will probably be in the megathread from time to time even if I can't comment.

Of course, maybe (hopefully) Ukraine will surrender while I'm gone, and the war will be over when I get back. In which case, I shall think of something else to do - perhaps a more global version?

Previous update today here.

Economically:

• From @granit :Sergey Glazyev suggests that Western enterprises that closed down in Russia should be handed over to their employees.
• RTG: Peskov said making gas (and other commodities) be paid for in rubles is not to "click on the nose" of the west, but so that euros and dollars are not taken away from Russia due to sanctions, and because there is an erosion in the trust in the dollar and euro, and many countries doubt their reliability and develop calculations in national currencies.
• MSM: India's power sector, and thus India's populace, will face one of the worst summers ever due to a "perfect inflationary storm".
• MSM: From @granit: Europe’s ambitious timetable to cut Russian energy imports will require a lot of steel, copper and aluminum to build more wind, solar and LNG terminals. The problem: Russia is a major supplier of those metals, and the war is making them expensive
• RTG: Slovakia, which gets about 80% of its natural gas from Russia, says that gas supplies from Russia cannot be stopped and so they will pay in rubles.
• Transport Minister Martin Kupka of the Czech Republic says that the country has natural gas reserves for about a month and is working on getting natural gas from Qatar, after having cut off Russian natural gas.
• German Retail Association says that German food retailers will raise prices by minimum 20% to maximum of 50% on Monday.
• EU should discuss ban on Russian gas imports - German defense minister

Diplomatically and Politically:

• RTG: There is talk from "Ukrainian sources" that Zelensky will give no territorial concessions, making the peace deals pointless.
• RCM: Zelensky said that Ukraine has not received security guarantees from any country.
• RTG: Georgia's prime minister states that sanctioning Russia will only hurt Georgia, but still participates in all international sanctions. However, Georgia will continue to export mineral and fresh water, ferroalloys, wine and agricultural products. Russia is one of Georgia's largest trading partners.
• RTG: The Pakistani Army says "We have nothing to do with what is happening in the political arena." - so a coup in Pakistan has probably been averted.
• Pakistani FM Qureshi received a message from the Chinese foreign minister that "China has always protected Pakistan’s sovereignty & territorial integrity and will continue to do so,”
• RTG: The Czech Interior Ministry states that $450 million has been spent on the refugee crisis caused by the Ukraine invasion, and that 300,000 refugees have already been taken in. They expect another 300,000 to arrive before the crisis is over.
• African immigrants in Belgium are reportedly rightfully outraged that Ukrainian refugees have more rights than they do.
• RTG: People in Latvia who support Russia in their invasion may have their passports taken from them.
• RTG: The mayor of Dnipro called for killing Russians all over the world. Boris Filatov posted about this on Facebook (banned in Russia). The moderators of the social network did not block it.
• RTG: Pro-Russian rally in Germany today, with over 5000 cars in support of Russia, flying their flag and the USSR flag.
• RTG: China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi to Lavrov: “China and Russia must deepen bilateral ties in every area ... China-Russia partnership ‘stronger than ever’"

Militarily:

• RTG: Ukrainian forces control all territory up to the Belarus border in the north after the successful withdrawal of Russian forces over the last couple days.
• RTG: Russian armed forces destroyed large fuel storage facilities in Konstantinovka, Slavuta and Ternopil, which supplied Ukrainian troops from the Mykolaiv and Donetsk directions.
• RTG: Mykolaiv hit with Russian missile strikes, according to mayor.
• An article on Russia's military and how the west underestimated it
• DPA giving his analysis on the military situation.

Dipshittery:

• RTG: Poland's Deputy Prime Minister says that the US should deploy 150,000 troops to European countries to increase their presence and provide Europe with security. He also says deploying tactical nuclear weapons against Russia would "significantly strengthen Moscow's deterrence" and that while the question does not arise at the moment, it may change soon.
• MSM: Ukraine says Russia has abducted 11 mayors from occupied territory, including in Kiev, Kherson, Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, Mykolaiv and Donetsk.

Ursula von der Leyen says China must:

• Stop its unjustified trade measures against Lithuania

• Lift sanctions against MEPs

• Address global concerns on human and labour rights, especially in Xinjiang

• Improve access and conditions for EU companies in its market.

Okay... and? If China does not do this, what will the EU do? Go into recession even harder? You ain't shit without China or Russia. Go be a vassal continent to America and explode your economies with more expensive American products or shut the fuck up.

Thousands of Pakistanis take to the streets to protest the US due to the recent news that the US may be interfering in its domestic politics.

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This war is fucking stupid, and anyone who supports the war is a fucking idiot

I am taking the constructive criticism to source as much as possible. Unfortunately, a lot of what I get comes from Russian telegram and such (so if you tried to show it your lib friends and relatives then it wouldn't go too well) but I thought I'd hold myself Accountable™. This will make these take longer, though.

RTG: Russian telegram.
RCM: Russian/Chinese media.
MSM: Mainstream media (obviously). Well, it doesn't have to be literally mainstream, just "any media that isn't Russian or Chinese".
SCM: Socialist/communist media.
TWA: Twitter accounts.

Economically:

The Russian Ruble and Gas:

• RTG: The President of the Federal Union of German Industry, Russwurm, says that abandoning Russian gas would mean the collapse of German industry.
• RTG: The head of Rosatom, Russia's state corporation that specializes in nuclear power, says that it sees no issues with a transition to settlements in rubles under international contracts.
• MSM: Russia's profits from energy exports may grow up a third this year, earning a projected total of $321 billion.
• MSM: EU’s Economic Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni: "The European Union is working on further sanctions on Russia but any additional measures will not affect the energy sector." He also said that the war in Ukraine would cause a growth slowdown but not a recession in Europe.
• RCM: RT explains the significance of putting the ruble on a gold standard.
• RCM: The UK won't get any Russian gas, as they sanctioned Gazprombank.

Other:

• MSM: "China is not a party to the Ukrainian crisis. And we do not think that this should affect our normal trade with any other country. Even Europe does normal business with Russia, you haven't stopped all your trade with Russia. Thus, our normal trade cooperation with Russia should not be affected." - Wang Lutong, head of the European Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic.
• MSM: Russian Oil Is Too Cheap To Resist For China And India
• MSM: Thousands of Russia-linked shipping containers are causing a 'nightmare' situation in the Port of Rotterdam. This article comes a month after shipping rates were reported to have tripled for oil tankers.
• SCM: Overflowing Inventories and the Supply Chain Crisis; an article by Counterpunch on, you guessed it, the supply chain crisis.
• MSM: Apparently (I can't read German) Thanks to @UmbraVivi: Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten is reporting that the salaries of German authorities is going up by about 300 euros per month. This is while the German people are told that very difficult times are ahead.
• MSM: Greek railway workers refuse to transport NATO equipment despite pressure from management. The trade unions intervened and threats from management ceased.
• RCM: Polish Prime Minister admits that the sanctions have not had the expected effect, as he observes the ruble exchange rate.
• TWA: EU inflation hitting new heights.
• MSM: Ukraine's economy could shrink 40% in 2022.
• RCM: The EU allows Ukrainian refugees to convert hryvnas to euros for free, though only up to 300 euros per person.
• MSM: Nearly 1 in 3 food companies in Belgium forced to reduce or shutdown production.
• MSM: Sri Lanka is facing over 10 hour long power cuts, unable to keep its oil-powered turbines going because of a fuel shortage and a lack of foreign currency to pay for oil imports. This has sparked protests, with motorists blocking major roads.
• RTG: Microsoft executives have confirmed that the company is not going to completely stop working in Russia.
• RCM: Dating site Badoo stops working in Russia and Belarus.

Diplomatically:

• RTG: Russia and Belarus reformat their sports tournaments so that they can hold their own competitions and invite foreign athletes to them.
• RTG: Medvedev recalls Chernomyrdin's forecast of when Ukraine would join the EU - "right after Turkey". "And when is Turkey joining?" he was asked, to which he replied "Never."
• RTG: Peskov: "Putin and Lukashenko have a unique relationship"; Belarus and Russia celebrate Unity Day today.
• RTG: Putin and Tokayev, the Kazakhstan President, spoke by phone about the progress of the invasion.
• RTG: Russia opens a case of a terrorist attack after the air strike on Belgorod's oil depot.
• RTG: Moldova will remain neutral and will not join sanctions against Russia.
• MSM: A plan for Pope Francis to travel to the Ukrainian capital “is on the table,” he said while on a flight taking him from Rome to Malta.
• MSM: Russia’s space director said that the restoration of normal ties between partners at the International Space Station (ISS) and other joint space projects would be possible only with the “full and unconditional removal” of Western sanctions against Moscow.
• RCM: Chinese leaders have brushed back against pressure from the EU to take an anti-Russia stance in the Ukraine conflict, insisting that cooperation between Beijing and Brussels is needed to prevent long-term damage to the global economy.
• RTG: Chief of the General Staff of the German Army notes that from Kalinigrad, Russian Iskanders can hit all targets in western Europe.

Militarily:

Ukraine in general:

• RTG: Russia reports hitting 24 drones, 2 helicopters, and 67 military facilities overnight.
• RTG: An ex-fighter of the Aidar battalion said that Ukrainians fired shells at monasteries to blame Russia.

Central Ukraine:

• MSM : Russia destroys the Kremenchuk refinery in central Ukraine.
• RTG: 37 rockets were launched towards Dnipro, and hit strategically important objects.
• RTG: An airfield and air defense facility were possibly damaged on the outskirts of Poltava.
• RTG: 2 missile cities in the city of Pavlohrad near Dnipro.

Eastern Ukraine:

• RTG: More explosions in Kharkiv.
• RTG: 170 Ukrainian soldiers surrender in the LPR.
• RTG: Photos of Russians crossing the Seversky Donets river, near Izyum.
• RTG: DPR reports capturing a total of 136 settlements so far.
• RTG: Two explosions near Lozovaya, a city in the Kharkiv region, and a large supply hub which was an important supply line for the Ukrainian forces in Donbass.

Southern Ukraine:

• RTG: Explosions from volleys of MLRS near Kryvih Rih.
• RTG: Kadyrov says that the storming of the Mariupol Azovstal plant has begun.

Northern Ukraine:

• RTG: The governor of Sumy reports a large number of Russian soldiers entering the region.

Dipshittery and Cope:

• MSM : Danish European Commissioner Margret Vestager teaches Europeans to wash less to annoy Putin. "Every time you turn off the water, you can say, "Get it, Putin!"
• RTG : The Azov flag appeared in the online store Kaufland, which advises you to "hang a flag on the wall to show your pride". It has since been removed.
• RCM: American actor Sean Penn has called on a wealthy philanthropist to come forward with $500 million to procure at least two squadrons of fighter planes. “One billionaire could end this war in Ukraine ... 2 squadrons of F-15s or F-16s,” which he claimed feature “better tech than Russian Migs [sic] or SU’s,” would cost only about $300 million. He also called for “another $200m in missile defense,” and further suggested that with three weeks of training plus “add-ons in arming & maintaining creative runways, etc.,” Ukraine’s pilots would be ready to kick Russia out of its skies.

I'm now 100% convinced that French soldiers were at Mariupol, given that Macron has now stopped calling Putin since the helicopter was shot down.

Kinda impressive that Andrew of Channel 5 is going to Ukraine to try and get on top of things but I can't shake the feeling like it's not a great move, I like him covering things domestically if that makes sense, I dunno if trying to candid camera interview people fleeing a warzone is gonna be very tasteful no matter how much it might boost his cred

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German libs really out here demanding more expensive gas and even worse conditions for poor people :stress: