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The world is so uhinged right now. I think covid broke people completely.
Really? Seems pretty sane where I live. Then again, I don't live in western countries.
Even where I'm at in the American South it seems pretty sane. It's weird because the conservatives are actually the ones that have the more anti-war stance and are mentioning NATO right now.
Some local places got hit with the sanctions and basically just want it to end.
I think a lot of people are metabolizing the situation more like a natural disaster than a political crisis. The attitudes and "support" reminds me far more of when hurricanes or tsunamis hit somewhere. It's a normal impulse to feel for the plight of the Ukrainian civilians, but it's not normal for Americans to care about foreign policy or why things in other countries take place.
It's all Americans have been primed for. We haven't been asked to feel sympathetic for victims of warfare since when? There was Georgia, but no one cared. The American imagination has a hard time understanding what people in other countries are like and what the situations may truly be, so we've ended up with a very hollow sympathy for the Ukrainian people based on a 24/7 propaganda campaign to a confused audience.
That's why possibly why your neighbor didn't have flags for other stuff. They were too politically charged, whereas this is more unambiguous so long as you ignore the preceding events.
Yeah, definitely. Russia is presented as simply being evil and run by a maniac greedy for power. Putin isn't even a human anymore to liberals, he's an unavoidable force with no understandable motivations, like a tornado or covid. Makes it easier to choose a side if one is human in the face of an unknowable adversary.
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tbh, be thankful you dont live in a neighborhood where literally every house has a BLM sign, none of the home owners are black (the BLM sign is basically a "please dont loot and raize this house bc we're with you, poors!"), and in their driveway is a fucking tesla with a god damn Elizabeth Warren sticker on it. i use to barback at this insanely shitty bar and when i stumbled home at 4am would usually try to find the most obnoxious/expensive car and just piss all over it (obv i made sure to get the driver side handle)
California is beautiful, and not everyone sucks, but... when this state is burried in molten lava someday some disconcertingly large part of me will be happy its gone
when your biggest problem is that there's too many blm signs in your white neighborhood, California doesn't seem like the worst state ever.
It's a criticism that becomes more valid the longer you live in a lib haven.
as someone who grew up in the racist south, i think that you think there's a bigger difference between libs and chuds than there really is
but yeah, at least theres public transportation for me to get to my shitty minimum wage job, which is more than 90% of the country can say
edit: removed defensive language around white people destroying and co opting historically revolutionary neighborhoods bc idk why, i dont feel like starting a fight rn
Yeah, my neighbor (in Texas) has a WALLACE FOR PRESIDENT bumper sticker on their truck, for comparison. I’d much prefer performative libs over aggressively racist chuds any day of the week.
i use to barback and this insanely shitty bar
Woah I definitely read this wrong a few times.
and when i stumbled home at 4am would usually try to find the most obnoxious/expensive car and just piss all over it (obv i made sure to get the driver side handle)
holy shit. unbelievably based. uncritical support to user fuckmyphonefuckingsu. :fidel-salute: literally braver than the troops.
they invented it to justify colonial atrocities in Ireland and later adapted it to defend lynching black people and Jim Crow in the USA
Because they have permission to hate russia, but not to hate israel or america
As others have said, don’t underestimate the power of nonstop media coverage and narrative crafting. Nephew’s point is also really important.
Yesterday an old friend wanted to talk at me about both the Holodomor ("using communism to justify atrocities") and the war in Ukraine as if they're related. Hates the Iraq war analogy. I think he probably identifies as a Dem Soc, but just holy shit. He wasn't even trying to go anywhere, I think he just couldn't understand what my point of view would.
Be glad you don't live in 🇪🇪 🔥 , where even the national flag is replaced with Ukrainian flag plastered on nearly every building and streetpost, to the extent that "Am I living in :estonia-cool: or in Ukraine now?"
I see these things the same as the Kony 2012 mania. A brief cultural flash that people involved in will look back at to say they were there for it with very little reflection on their actual role. It is mass virtue signaling at its finest.
There’s literally an old Kony 2012 sticker and a Ukrainian flag visible on the same block near where I live. What a time to be alive.
These types of propaganda efforts have been finely honed to work on a certain type of person. They are mind virus es that use social media as a host to spread across the population.
Because those other flags are controversial. Nearly everyone supports Ukraine right now. It’s like the yellow ribbon bumper sticker in the early 00’s
Does this mean listening to Limp Bizkit is socially acceptable again?
Lol no. Ukrainians are white so Americans feel sad that they're suffering, or at least feel like they have to pretend to be sad. But americans will never under any circumstances give a shit about the suffering of brown people
To muadib's point, however, there are a lot of brown Americans who could care about atrocities to poc, it's the media coverage that holds it back
Who has a link to the article about the millions spent by the US to foster anti-russian sentiments?
Yandex provides more relevant search results on this vs google. 🤔
https://thewashingtonstandard.com/documents-reveal-us-spent-22-million-promoting-anti-russia-narrative-in-ukraine-abroad/
Lol no problem, I remembered the amount for some reason so, "22 million on anti russia sentiment" brought it up on duck duck go
Wait. "the washington standard" yea that's gotta be fake :doomer: no wonder it wouldn't show up in my searches.
100% that neighbor will stop caring about Ukraine if this thing drags on for another month.
