• Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I love the underlying premise that sanctions will help end the war. Basically a push poll.

    I still remember how major TV news networks found out that Dem primary voters in 2020 agreed much more with Sanders on individual issues than they did with Biden. So they decided to start doing a push poll as part of the official exit polling in early primary states, basically doing propaganda for the subsequent states that voted. The question was:

    "Would you rather have a Dem candidate who you agree with on the issues, or someone who can beat Donald Trump in the general election".

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    3 years ago

    "They say they'd pay even more to fuck over Russia, except they also aren't happy about it, which in no way indicates a captive population, no siree"

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    There's only so long propaganda can distract you from material reality. You can't run your car on grandstanding and liberal slogans.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah but when reality punches them in the face they're going to start frothing at the mouth for "intervention" to fix it.

  • a_maoist_quetzal [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    mfers how about spending less on goddamn bioweapons labs to end Russia's war, that'd probably work better

  • doggydog2 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    do gas prices not increase transportation costs increasing the price of everything along the supply chain? honestly not sure how it works

    • SpaceDog [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Not just transportation, but production itself!
      Almost everything that is produced requires burning or converting oil in its production process. Plastic is made from oil. Fertilizer is made from oil or gas. Most plant agriculture is dependent on fertilizer, and 99% of animal agriculture is dependent on plant agriculture that is dependent on fertilizer, and also uses petrochemicals to run the animal factory farms.

      You can go along the list of things that are made, and you'll find that almost everything requires a low oil price to remain cheap.
      So everything will get more expensive. But working class people require things to remain cheap so that they can buy them. So they don't buy them, so sales drop, which drives a drop in sales in oil, which drops the price of oil. But oil producers need high prices in order to continue to extract hard-to-reach oil. So we hit an economic crisis.

    • sgtlion [any]
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      3 years ago

      It's capitalism. It hasn't become somehow more expensive to make oil, oil companies just now have the chance to bleed people dry, and so they will. While sitting on giant piles of cash that they, to quote the oil companies "have so much we don't know what to do with it".

  • ancom20 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    headline says "pay more to stop war", next sentence indicates they want to conduct economic warfare ("banning Russian oil"). Pay more to stop war would be like a Bribe Surtax that pays off Putin and Zelensky to quit fighting.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    That's fun and all in the states, but here we almost pay 10 dollars for a gallon right now. lmao.

  • sgtlion [any]
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    3 years ago

    Pay more for energy to literally prevent world destruction? Pshhh, no thanks.

    Pay more than I can afford to punish a made up nationstate? Now we're taalking.