This is from the Ukraine presidents own website.
Original link: https://www.president.gov.ua/news/sho-bilshe-rosiya-zastosovuye-teroru-proti-ukrayini-girshi-n-73685?fbclid=IwAR37GnBsZoYLB88VspFYlZP__4mjI9J12VLXEKvRHSpjCpU1JydhZu9Sajo
Google translate version: https://www-president-gov-ua.translate.goog/news/sho-bilshe-rosiya-zastosovuye-teroru-proti-ukrayini-girshi-n-73685?fbclid=IwAR37GnBsZoYLB88VspFYlZP__4mjI9J12VLXEKvRHSpjCpU1JydhZu9Sajo&_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
And it's not the same as this speech to Switzerland, which strangely skips the ban part. Weird huh?
Suck my ass, Ukraine. If America tells you someone if the "good guy" you should immediately assume they are in fact a piece of shit.
Spread this shit around.
English translation archive: https://archive.is/uZfKf
original: https://archive.is/VFfai
And this isn't supporting Russia. This is just showing that any "leftist" should not be supporting Ukraine as well.
When you totally don't have a fascist problem lmao fuck zelensky, fuck the government, fuck the nazis
As far as I can tell, Genzedong is literally the only place this has been posted at all on Reddit.
It feels like literally nothing can budge unconditional support for Ukraine by libs.
i had a person i know in real life shouting at me yesterday that im not a real leftist for not going to fight for Ukraine. That person i know in real life is a fucking moron. I told them they should go but apparently this required my tacit approval or they wouldnt. ahhh values. please go overseas and die to own me.
This piece should be shown to any leftist who still thinks it's a good idea to take sides in any act of war or power struggle between capitalist nations.
Support for any of these nations is directly support for the suppression of the working class and any socialist movements within these states.
They were asking you to hold them back while they lunged wildly at Putin
give them a blank world map and ask them to point to ukraine
he's not quite that stupid, just the most stubborn shithead i know possibly. I sent him the article where the leader of the foreign legion said they don't want people without combat experience. my "friend" ignored me and just sent a star wars meme.
Ah nah dude, Vaush is totally going to whip a frenzy that Ukraine is now explicitly anti-left, it's 100% a thing he DEFINITELY won't stand for lmaoo
I almost missed the sarcasm on this one. I guess it's easy to do when Vrash so often does revise his own history on debate shit.
Honestly feel disgusted mentioning their name but they're such an influence it's time to cap on them more
Lol for sure. No idea how anyone can be pro nato and also be a leftist. They're either extremely ignorant and under read or just garbage person who has fash tendencies
Someone with a Reddit username suspiciously like mine just fixed that a little, FWIW.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/DemocraticSocialism/comments/tig2oq/ukraine_officially_bans_all_leftist_political/?
- https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWithoutEdge/comments/tig3tm/ukraine_officially_bans_all_leftist_political/?*
- https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/tig4ef/ukraine_officially_bans_all_leftist_political/?
Good on whoever that doppelganger happens to be.
The mental gymnastics in the comments are astounding.
If WWI were being fought right now, they'd 100% be cheering on the imprisonment of Eugene Debs.
People don’t budge on anything anymore lol. At least, not online. In person, maybe it’s easier
in person people budge all the time in my experience
online is not real life
Well people will admit when you raise good points and can be convinced, and I have done it before with coworkers. But in my experience their general outlook does not change. The media they look at will be 100 times more influential then I will ever be. Which is a pessimistic outlook
Already there’s people saying Ukraine is “becoming more progressive because of the war”.
Libs will have us all line up against the wall and call our deaths necessary to ensure democracy’s survival.
Maybe if they come for the communists first, they'll be satisfied and settle down.
And also the Roma because Europeans don't like them either, and then they'll settle down.
Then they came for me- And I said “not a good look, sweaty” and had brunch.
libs: ukraine is becoming is becoming more progressive because of the war! :so-true:
me: but I thought you said putin was lying when he said he was denazifying
libs: :wojak-nooo:
:wojak-nooo: Nooooo you don't get it, they can't be fascists! Their hecking wholesome Marvel hero presidenterino is Jewish!
Azov is only a tiny minority of their armed forces!! :wojak-nooo: Svoboda only got 2% of the vote!!!!! :wojak-nooo:
They only destroyed all the soviet-era statues because of the holodmor!!!! :wojak-nooo: Renaming public places from the USSR is no big deal! :wojak-nooo: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decommunization_in_Ukraine)
I love how that's literally one of the top arguments that supposedly makes it better lol. "Dude they're not just a gang of nazis anymore, they're openly supported by the government jeez"
Don’t worry guys, the fascists are just a tiny margin of the military that has been washed clean. Ukraine and Zelensky are all about democracy, freedom, and personal rights :so-true:
I unironically feel like this guy every single fucking time I have to explain this shit. :pepe-silvia:
I quit smoking years ago and definitely will not pick it up again until bullets are flying over my head aha
I've heard rumours that Zelensky has lost control of the army and can't get them to withdraw from the east to defend the cities which is why they're so desperately pressing foreign volunteers into service
yes it is. they banned communists years ago so it's not surprising. All leftists are Russians now.
A November 2016 poll, found that 48% of respondents supported a ban on Communist ideology in Ukraine, 36% were against it and 16% are undecided. It also found that 41% of respondents said they support the initiative to dismantle all monuments to Lenin in the country, whereas (48 percent) are against this and 11% are undecided
huh, how does this fascism keep getting in my anticommunism
it was soon divided into a pro-American and pro-Russian camp
Can this ever be avoided in a border territory between Russia and the west?
Well, Poroshenko's center-right party is technically opposition and it hasn't been banned.
It's to the right of Zelensky's party though isn't it? They don't seem like opposition, they seem more like collaborators that just want things harder.
Fun fact Poroshenko wanted Zelensky to get a drug test done before a debate, and Zelensky refused to get it done with him, instead opting to do the drug test at a private clinic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/05/ukraine-president-takes-up-comedians-drug-test-challenge
Reading about both of these guys is pretty wild, not very based neither on the politics nor the corruption or personal problems.
Ukraine’s presidential candidates have both submitted to drug tests as the country’s elections increasingly resemble a political circus in the final weeks of the campaign.
the amazing part is the speech to switzerland totally omits this. of course by amazing i mean predictable as fuck.
yep, and we'll continue to sound like Russia bots because we can use Google translate.
It was never contrarianism. It was understanding history and the material conditions of the country. The less Americans are able to point out Ukraine on a map, the more likely they were to support this BS.
NATO: literally staffed by ex-nazis since the beginning. Exists to establish preponderant US hegemony in Europe and encircle Russia
The USA: literally funded the rise of the nazis, and minimally contributed to their downfall, only so it could brain drain them and dictate capitalism in West Germany through the Marshall plan.
Ukraine: Nazi collaborators thru Bandera, tons of popular nazi movements, some of which get absorbed into the military
Ukrainian leftists: banned, suppressed, murdered
Ukrainan Russians: ethnically cleansed since 2014 US-backed "revolution" that brought Azov battalion into existence
US/Ukraine: the only two countries to consistently vote against combating nazism at the UN
Ukraine: unstable country that Russian natural gas lines pas through. A Great source of wealth for Russia.
Russia: mainly capitalist because despised US-backed leaders Gorbachev and Yeltsin
USA: obviously engineering the entire situation to create as much instability as possible in order to destabilize, balkanize, and subordinate ex-soviet nations to US military hegemony.
US astroturfed social media: zelensky based! ukraine based! I just learned about this country last week!
Russian saboteurs spread through their propaganda through leftist parties, he had no other choice.
goddamn, it feels good to not be a liberal. Pointing out what has happened in Ukraine since 2014 wasnt enough for liberals. Will this very recent event be enough?
....probably not.
Yea, the denazification have to be continue until the last Nazi get purify or liquidate if they not surrender
And labor rights: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/ukraine-suspends-labour-law-war-russia/
How's it go again, "First they came for the..."?
This combined with Zelensky's bill to open up a private agricultural land market. NATO wasn't the end goal for the West, it is a tool to get IMF deregulation and privatization.
I suspect it was both an end goal (in terms of weapons emplacement and such, not necessary committing to Ukraine's defense) AND a means to subjugate people to the IMF economically.
In german newspapers they are all labelled „anti Russian, eu-sceptic or illiberal“
Germans taking a stance against leftism and communism? This'll go great