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  • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah...if leftists move away from anti-zionism, they weren't leftists to begin with. Palestinian sovereignty is a pretty cut and dried litmus test for this shit.

  • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Every time the DSA catches me by surprise by being based, they follow it up with some real lib cringe

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    1 year ago

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  • Pog_De_Maistre [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    hey guys i know its easy to be cynical but Marxist Unity Group and other left caucuses in the DSA are successfully pushing a petition to re-instate the national BDS working group. So far it has 900 signatures to the pro-NPC's 300 signatures. let's keep ratioing these soy losers and show them how little they are liked

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/12qZ0RHglL2zsDfAZtEA6D-0b_6tWQUkrwSnGYJYyzN8/edit

    • BatCountryMusicFan [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The only part of this that worries me is the clause calling for the right of local chapters to publicly criticize higher bodies, key word there being "publicly."

      Like the NPC dissolving the BDS working group is anti-Palestine, anti-internationalist clownshoes shit, and all the committee members who voted for it deserve to be out on their asses. But to have anything approaching a DemCent structure, there needs to be a level of public-facing unity of message. Can't have that if every chapter is allowed to dunk on leadership on twitter for the world to see, with no repurcussions. Look how liberal opportunists are already pouncing on this to further the division. There needs to be structures put in place to allow for internal debate and criticism that isn't fucking corporate social media.

      I signed for the sake of getting the DBS working group back, but this incident ought to open up a broader discussion about message discipline and the organization's structure writ large.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      i assume one has to be a card carrying member to sign, yea? otherwise i imagine this would have the same effect as most petitions.

    • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I don’t think it’s possible to run a forum as a direct democracy honestly. But that does make moderation a purely trust-based relationship

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        You can probably run a forum as a direct democracy, but not an anonymous political forum. When chapo.chat was in the development phase we legitimately wanted to run it as a direct democracy, but we had gained a lot of enemies during out time on reddit and had wreckers using botnets to manipulate votes on the site within a week.

        • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I suppose that’s what I meant, but valid clarification. An invite-only direct democracy forum for a local org chapter would be badass

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    There will be weeks where decades will happen

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      there will be decades where you fuck around

      and weeks where you find out

      - Iosef Jugashvili Ilyich Jacobo Arbenz Castro-Stalin-Gaddafi IV, first of his name, king of the anarchists, the communists, and everything east of the Volga

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      11 months ago

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  • seesaw [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Once again, National own goals just fuck with the local organizing. Once National understand that we've got to have local and state organizing locked down before we start trying to have a national impact. DSA ain't shit, we're still super fucking small and super young.