Europe, very noted for being liberal and open to foreigners.

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  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Basically openly threatening apartheid against Russians now, very cool.

  • Fredward [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah, I'm okay with Russia just annexing them now.

    • BatCountryMusicFan [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I've already posted about it but it was 99% of media-consuming Amerians' lionization of Zelensky that made me realize how hopelessly goldfish-brained the US is.

        • KoeRhee [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Not only was he re-elected, he won the popular vote! By 3 million! Between 1988 and today he is the only Republican nominee to have won the popular vote at all, and he did it by 3 million, off the back of his "success" illegally invading and occupying a foreign country, and turning Fallujah to dust.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Huh I wonder what Albert Einstein thought of Israel, he was kind of a smart dude.

    Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the “Freedom Party” (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

    Oh so he called them fascists? The ruling party for the last 50 years until Netanyahu was removed last year and the liberals took over and continued exactly the same policies? Interesting.

    Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state.

    :yea:

    • doctorb [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I'm gonna trust the guy who fled fascist Germany to point out when other countries are being fascist. Seems like the logical thing to do

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Right.

        And Ukraine, if they had their way, would turn Donbas into its own Gaza and the West bank. An Israel in eastern Europe.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    trying their hardest to make me uncritically support Russia. I won't.

  • mittens [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    so a military apartheid AND a burden to the american taxpayer?

    • END [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Damn, that's exactly what Ukraine is going to turn into isn't it? It's got the constant flow of weapons, the oppression of another group of people from breakaway states (not exactly settler colonialism though), the fascistic revision of history and fake nation-building mythos, and militarization of society reinforcing it all. Will have weirdo shitlib defenders in imperial core countries the exact way Zionists do. too.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Fortunately unlike Israel, it doesn't have the power to treat the DPR and LPR as its own Gaza and West Bank. Unfortunately, that just means it will turn inward towards "fifth columnists".

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Fortunately the DPR and LPR will no longer be part of Ukraine in any way by the end of this war.

          Unfortunately other majority Russian speaking areas of Ukraine might not be so lucky.

      • Deadend [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        They will begin settler colonialism of the territory Russia is going to be forced to give up .

          • Deadend [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Crimera is going to be colonized by "real" Ukranians.

            • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              I don't think the Russians are going to cede a territory that'd give them access to natural gas deposits in a region where they've already got a naval base.

              • Deadend [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                The west will push for it, maybe. Or do a nuclear war. As they don’t care about Ukraine, but about crushing Russia, losing Crimea would be a good insult.

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  The west views giving Ukraine guns as a good way to weaken Russia for cheap they don't care enough for a war. What they are doing here is pushing for Ukraine to fight longer and ensure high casualties on both sides before agreeing to peace

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Ukraine would want that but Russia is the stronger country here and will not cede anything and there is no way in hell that Ukraine is going to take it from them

  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    :israel-cool: and :ukkkraine: maybe some gulf states forming the non-aligned of the 21st century.

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I'm sure this will affect how the liberals see :ukkkraine: :yea:

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They just haven't finished "decommunizing"/they just need to "open up" their economy more/their Slavic craniums just can't handle Democracy (TM) like Western European ones do!

      :zizek-preference:

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Online* MLs and baby-brained foreign policy takes. Name a more iconic duo.

      *if calling out online anarchists is non-sectarian, so is this. Much love to the MLs I know IRL.

      • BigAssBlueBug [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I'm not an ML nor an anarchist, I am a 100% pure-bred :LIB: just like everyone else on this site

        Also it was a half-ironic joke because at this point I just want zelensky dead

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    So it will be a militarised fascist apartheid state?

    I'm happy the comedian finally stopped lying.

  • Michel_FouBro [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    very important to support ukraine, you see, as they are part of "The West". no, maybe not geographically or historically, but they share with us (like the Japanese!) the cultural and dispositional spirit of liberalism!

  • toledosequel [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    It was already on that path. What's an interesting development of this war is Zelenskyy going from existing in tension with the far right to just being the far right.