I was in one of his concerts a couple of years ago and some boomers booed when the messages dissing Trump etc appeared.
Lol me too, where was it btw? I saw him in Dublin (not Irish, I just went there on a trip with a friend).
Yeah the pig is awesome, everyone lost their shit at that and at the laser pyramid near the end.
In front of me and my friend was this short, bald Irish boomer who was either drunk or high (or both), and he was just the most excited person I've ever seen about anything. He did weird theatrical manoeuvres with his arms, played air guitar and grabbed his head a lot. Then he kept turning towards us, screaming "YEAAAH" or something like that and hugging us, or singing the lyrics. At some point he randomly met a couple of old friends and they started doing manoeuvres together and hugging each other. That guy ruled.
By far the most expensive concert I've been to but it was worth it.
"Described the apparent social and moral decay of society"
But really I love the album and Dogs has my favorite guitar work in any Pink Floyd song.
I'm definitely going to listen to this album again today :)
Roger Waters is great, although I do think he doesn't give Gilmour enough credit for his contributions (he bills himself as "the musical genius behind Pink Floyd," or at least he used to). But damn does he put on a great concert; I saw him twice back in the aughts.
I do think he doesn’t give Gilmour enough credit
Tbf look at what happened after Roger left lol. Dave is fantastic in his own right but he couldn't do what Roger did
They've had some decent work since he left. It's not as brilliant as the earlier stuff, sure, but I think a big part of the genius of Floyd was the give and take between Waters and Gilmour, particularly in the case of Dark Side of the Moon (Gilmour said in an interview that he wanted the album to be very "swampy" and Waters wanted it "dry"). The whole was greater than the sum of its parts.
That's what I've been saying! (or rather just said once a week ago)
That article is kind of written in an annoying and arrogant tone tbh. There is no objectively good or enjoyable novels. And also there’s not only one possible interpretation of 1984.
With that said I don’t really have a dog in this fight, it’s fucked up what orwell did late in life and also I don’t know if you would ever truly call him an anarchist. But 1984 depicts three nations in constant unending war - In my interpretation it’s the Soviets, the capitalists, and the fascists. While the book does focus on the Soviets or seems too, part of the book for me is that it could truly be any of the three nations. It’s not just a criticism of Stalinism (although I think it certainly is one) but a criticism of the global system which Orwell to me seems to see as being part of the same thing. Like each nation kind of requires the other two, the criticism is of all of them.
And besides You can despise Stalin even while someone “worse” is around. Like you can choose to spend your time on criticizing Stalin even if someone worse exists. The point that that’s “infantile” isn’t even supported by anything it’s jsut mudslinging.
Like I said fuck Orwell for sure. He was a homophobe and antisemite and a snitch. Let there be no association between me and him. But I also find this article really annoying. And it seems like it’s also attempting to tie the criticism of Orwell (obviously justified) into a criticism of anarchists which i don’t think he really was despite his collaboration with them. Also I kind of think 1984 isn’t that far off the money. The dreary and system controlled existence produces a novel with a monotonous energy, that’s the point as I see it, and I think it makes a good point about the world we live in.
I mean he risked his life fighting against fascist Spain whereas you're sitting on your computer posting, but go off, I guess.
Exactly. Knee jerk reacting to historical figures who lived complicated lives is dumb and people should stop doing it.
It's not really kneejerk to hate his entire political philosophy and his bourgeois lifestyle for most of it.
It is kneejerk to hate Politics and the English Language or Homage to Catalonia, or some of his other writing that you didn't read in highschool.
If you hate everyone who spent part of their life living a "bourgeois lifestyle" then I have some bad news for you about Marx and Engels.
Posh prick. I mean, I can understand why he was upset after what he saw in Spain, but damn did he handle it poorly.
I mean he went to an actual currently existing anarchist project and lived among them, enjoying his time there enough that he then decided to put his life on the line fighting fascists to protect it. He then came away from the failure with the opinion, basically, "That system was pretty sick, we should keep doing that."
He wasn't great for a lot of reasons, but he definitely wasn't a fascist.
