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The proposed bargain has always been “no, we won’t really fight corporations, but we’ll defend social progress!”

Well, they’re in charge, the rich are richer than ever, & now people are being charged with murder for miscarrying & it’s illegal to admit gay people are real.

liberals are the most insufferably ignorant people on the planet holy shit

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      To say that Biden is worse than Trump is to ignore the fact that Trump would be doing all the same shit but would also sign off on these monstrous bills should they have ever reached his desk and would spend plenty of public airwave time advocating for it once he realized how amped up cis people are to be given a new trans punching bag. The status quo will continue to kill us, but these monsters will continue to aim for destroying the status quo to enact their genocidal agenda.

      The difference is when Trump did stuff there were at least people opposing it. He was so outwardly vile that he mobilized people against him. Biden has lulled any left wing opposition to sleep, so state governments have been able to to right ahead with these genocidal laws and then soon enough they’ll take back the fed and do them there too.

      • invo_rt [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Biden has lulled any left wing opposition to sleep

        This is the most important takeaway, imo. The important thing everyone should realize is that this has always happened when the Dems are empowered, post-Reagan, and comes with additional denunciation of actual and nominal lefties.

        Clinton was the first of the corporate-friendly Dem presidents after the Dems had been shredded for more than a decade. Clinton passed some heinous, right-wing shit during his presidency like gutting welfare, the crime bill, and NAFTA. NAFTA was proposed during HW Bush's presidency, but got nowhere because the Dems were in opposition to it. Cue Clinton pushing the same deal and all of a sudden, the opposition is scattered. Looking back at the actual vote on NAFTA is pretty telling as well. The Dems still opposed it. NAFTA passed the Senate 61-38 with the Dems voting 27 For and 28 Against. The House is even more telling as it passed 234-200 with the Dems voting against it 102 For and 156 Against. Literally passed with mostly Rep support and a minority of Dems in both houses. Crazier than I remember.

        Obama had a similar trajectory by pushing a model of healthcare reform outlined by conservative think tanks in response to Clinton pushing for a better program. Perhaps most heinously, he tried his best to cut Social Security and Medicare and was only stopped because the Reps were so unhinged. He also deported a shit ton of people.

        Biden continuing down the same path is nothing new, just more of the same. I remember all of the endless VOTE talk from my lib friends online and IRL. They seemed to give a shit about climate, police, immigration, etc. I'm still as engaged as I've always been, but aside from the issue du jour, there's no talk of any of that stuff anymore.

        • Parent [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Heh didn't know dems were opposed to NAFTA and only half signed on when Clinton joined office.

          • invo_rt [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah, even the Dem House Majority Leader at the time, Dick Gephardt was against it citing that NAFTA would exacerbate job loss and declining incomes of US workers and would cause excess environmental impacts. He didn't vote for it. And yeah, the foundations of NAFTA went all the way back to Reagan. HW Bush actually signed the NAFTA agreement his last year in office and then the Dem controlled Congress and Clinton ratified it in Clinton's first year.

            Since Congress is an absolute gerontocracy, every Dem in leadership today voted on NAFTA when it passed ~30 years ago. Biden and Pelosi voted for it. Schumer voted against it.

      • ABigguhPizzahPieh [none/use name,any]
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        3 years ago

        The left dies a little more every time a democrat is elected. Does anytime remember how much energy and potential there was in the Bush years which immediately disappeared when Obama arrived?

        • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I do. By the end of his admin i felt like such a fuckin fool for voting for that prick

          That was the last time i voted, because in each of Bernie's primaries i lived in a state that came after the writing was on the wall

          Never again, electoralism is a fuck

    • ABigguhPizzahPieh [none/use name,any]
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      3 years ago

      You don't need to be a democratic socialist or ML or anarchist if all you want is the lesser evil of two capitalist leaders. There will always be a scary politician on one side to convince you to vote for the other. That's never going to change