• Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      To put it more clearly. Parts of the American bourgeoisie have significant interests within China. We already know a split has occurred within the American bourgeoisie because of this but it is very likely that these bourgeoisie have in fact aligned themselves politically with the interests of China against the United States, providing material assistance to groups within the US seeking to turn it towards China.

      The "crypto" part is that their cabal is secret. This means that nobody reallllllly knows who is and who is not part of this group.

      The bourgeoisie whose interests aren't necessarily aligned in one direction or another are likely to pick a side based on who they think will win anyway as it provides them the most influence.

      Meanwhile over in Europe the European bourgeoisie have aligned themselves to peaceful activities with China and appear to be planning to play a 40 year long-game, probably hoping they exert influence over time and wait for the right moment to collapse China like the USSR.

      All while this is going on there's a fascist cult that a small group are trying to feed into as the potential start of real fascism and they're failing super fucking hard to get any support from the wealthy so it's probably a non-starter.

      TL;DR: Things are getting into the fucky-zone.

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          Probably was but the existing situation has some parallels. There definitely are multiple factions in play and a bourgeoisie split. The idea of a cabal aligning itself with China and it being uncertain who is really pulling what levers has some merit even if it's not as cool sounding when you put it in terms of a bunch of assholes throwing their money around instead of revolutionaries building weapons caches.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        How would the bourgeoisie be "crypto-maoist" I don't think they're preparing to arm the peasants and start a Maoist revolution in America that takes away their power. Also you've still got some of the best bits o7

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          They wouldn't be in that sense and the US isn't ready for it yet anyway. I assumed that the prior poster was just saying it to imply alignment with China, which does uphold Mao Zedong thought.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            There might be some posturing going on right now with support of China, but I just know that the OP is really good with Maoist parody bait posts. Bloomberg said he liked China, but he's not supporting them because he supports revolutionary thought, it's because their special economic zones are great places to get cheap labor.

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      The CIA is afraid and the chuds are terrified. Shit got real.

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        Do you have any actual evidence for this?

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          For the chuds, it’s plain to see all over the internet that these people are fearful, losing their minds, talking about the rapture, and believe that it’s all over.

          For the CIA? None at all. Trump’s video performance suggests he’s been briefed, otherwise he would have blamed Biden... But it should be plain to see that America isn’t well-positioned to fight a Chinese-backed revolutionary left right now, and I think a lot of them probably have figured out that the ship will sink.

          • Rejs [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            That's not really out of the ordinary for chuds though, honestly? Lets not forget that their brainworms are even more terminal than the liberals', which is truly an achievement. They were definitely on the end-of-the-world, rapture train when Obama got elected/reelected too, just not necessarily to quite this extreme, which is explained by the abysmal material circumstances of the country as well as their induction into the Trump and Q cults.

            I don't know that I put enough stock in what Trump says to be convinced that he's been briefed on anything seriously conspiratorial. He does pull shit out of his ass like this all the damn time. Nor that China would be particularly benefited by actively interfering when they can just sit back while the US falls apart on its own.

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              True, but the best move for China is to exercise soft-power, which they have done loudly the past week through the EU, and by (very, very likely) taking down a quarter of the world’s internet in a cyber attack immediately following Kenosha. A few well placed taunts.

              China will want to sow as much doubt in Trump and America as possible, it’s an obvious geopolitical and Maoist ideological goal here, and we have plenty of reason to believe they’re doing so.

              I’d expect escalation, covert cyber-war, almost certainly blackouts in California, sabotage and subversion all over the country, and legitimate internationalist support if Western leftists organize and rapidly transform themselves over the next few months, and that looks like what is happening already.

              Qualities into quantities. This is exactly what an anti-electoral revolutionary opener in the imperial core should look like, and the best part is that Trump and the neoliberals are trapped now. The neoliberals have absolutely sold out to China already, and Trump’s fascist project is about to implode.

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      The wealthy will side with China over Qshit because Qshit won't keep them wealthy. The CIA knows this and is telling THE GODDAMN CHEETO that the wealthy are siding with China in terms of civil unrest and all that. The CIA scared because they're the espionage wing of capitalism. The people in charge, who are trying to embrace Q and carve out a new seat of power similar to how the Tea Party took over after 2008, are scared. If the rich doesn't back them, they lose and have to go back to being used car salesmen and MLM schemers.

      So the idea is that the Q party will start antagonizing the wealthy by insinuating this kind of conspiracy rhetoric and hopefully build support for jailing or murdering political dissidents (of the Q party). Or, at least, get people paranoid about the elites enough to keep voting for the Q people .

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        We’re going to be able rip apart the Q cult over the next few months, I’d expect there’s about to be a lot of pressure against the perpetrators ;)