• RION [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    It's insane that this is how the "adults in the room" react to the mildest, most inconsequential form of protest that involves voting (the holy altar of liberal democracy according to those same "adults")

    I take some solace in the fact that /r/politics users are a uniquely demented assortment of Langley provocateurs and reddit pmc clowns, and thus do not represent the average American

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      10 months ago

      Last year I didn't have and I couldn't have even conceived that "Trump is worse than the genocide and ethnic cleansing caused by and being caused by Biden right now" on my 2024 Presidential Bingo Card but here we are.

          • quarrk [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            Trump was president and instigated shit in Israel like moving the embassy in Jerusalem. The sad fact is that the US government decided years ago that this is the path for Israel/Palestine. It’s larger than either of these two clowns who IMO would both have done the same thing, although one can speculate that Biden is doing it more competently, or something…

            The only improvement with Trump would be his likely reduction/withdrawal of support from Ukraine. But that would be offset, possibly to a greater degree, by more extreme agitation against China, compared with Biden.

            Both Biden and Trump serve the interests of American imperialism, they merely have different tactics.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              10 months ago

              The only improvement with Trump would be his likely reduction/withdrawal of support from Ukraine. But that would be offset, possibly to a greater degree, by more extreme agitation against China, compared with Biden.

              Disagree. One, I don’t think Trump is more extreme on China than Biden. Trump’s louder about China than Biden, but Biden has much more competently done the same shit Trump wanted to do regarding China. Do you feel like we’re further from war with China than we were before Biden took office? I sure don’t.

              Two, at least Trump has opposition. He’s so outwardly gross and annoying that he makes the libs take our side. I genuinely felt much safer with Trump in power than Biden, because at least when Trump did evil shit people tried to stop it. When Trump did the Muslim ban people shut down airports, if Biden did the same they’d be telling us how actually he had to do it for national security and Trump would’ve done it worse.

              • quarrk [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                Do you feel like we’re further from war with China than we were before Biden took office? I sure don’t.

                Both Biden and Trump want war with China. But only the latter wants it right now, the former is merely setting up the pieces in Ukraine and west Asia. I mean I can only speculate but I think Trump would have taken concrete real steps toward a more open conflict with China if he was reelected in 2020. Maybe we would have traded Ukraine for Taiwan. Idk. But acting like these two scenarios are the same because they are both anti-China is reductive, imo.

                Muslim ban

                I guess. It was never going to work out legally. It was just one of Trumps many smoke and mirrors to distract from the other things he was doing. Biden achieves the same result by staying quiet.

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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          10 months ago

          With Trump in office libs will be forced to pretend to care about genocide

          Unless you want to claim libs will support Trump's Isreal policy? :)

            • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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              10 months ago

              Then maybe be less shitty and condescending to people who take a principled stance and refuse to legitimate a government perpetuating genocide?

            • Wakmrow [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              Thank God Biden is in power and the settlements in the West Bank have now been declared illegal.

            • Infamousblt [any]
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              10 months ago

              Bruh the genocide is happening right now under Biden. This has nothing to do with Trump. A vote for Biden is a vote for genocide. That's all there is to it. Go support genocide if you want I guess just admit that is what you're supporting. Don't lie to yourself about it.

            • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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              10 months ago

              Every liberal speaks in the same condescending way.

              Peanut gallery? Peanut gallery is the name for... checks notes the cheap seats in theatre for the poorer rowdy audience members...

              ...with possible racist origin in the United States' segregated South as a synonym for the back seats or upper balcony mostly reserved for Black people and immigrants...

              Mr Biden is that you?

              EDIT: On the topic of the ever condescending 'checks notes', the Financial Times of course loves it, with their most recent instance of it being "Are investors prepared for checks notes nuclear war in space?"

              Seriously.

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      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        He even admitted it's basically meaningless since we live in a red ass state, but STILL this guy was vehement that I should vote for biden as harm-reduction, otherwise I have a "child's view of politics".

        This is a toddler pushing buttons on an unplugged controllers thinking they're controlling what's happening on the screen.