• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "The Nazis are only a small part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces"

    /proceeds to do endless articles on Azov

    Why is the western media so focused on putting Azov in front of the camera? Are we getting some kind of confirmation bias where we ignore other stories?

    • GundamZZ [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Could be NATO putting a big "Nazis welcome here" signal to encourage nazis to come there to get training and create some kind of global network of terrorist cells.

      It could be them doing damage control for all the anti-Azov articles they were doing before, so they can defend Ukraine. This seems to be working because people are believing it.

      Could be because journalists sympathize with oppressors in almost every conflict nowadays.

    • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Azov are the vanguard of Ukraine military propaganda. There are other reasons, but don't discount the power of simply being the main group putting in an active propaganda effort with the full backing of the state. While Right Sector sits in bunkers, Azov runs training programs for children and pulls stunts like these.

    • Anemasta [any]
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      2 years ago

      A conspiracy reading would be that Nato benefits from continuation of war and those are the people who are committed to not taking any peace deals, even when Zelenskyy seems to be getting cold feet.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If you hide it, people might find out about it, and then there's no mainstream narrative ready to tell them what to think. But if you put it right up front and say "they're not really Nazis," people belive that because it's the mainstream narrative.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        I wonder how we could predict and pre-empt the next attempt at glowing up another of history’s greatest monsters? Nobody in America was thinking of Azhov, so MSM got to define the narrative.

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    it should also be noted that they aren't trying very hard by for example trying to get their husbands to surrender

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Despite Russia apparently bending over backwards to give them an out. Remember when Russia was going to flood the plant? Or when Russia was going to use nerve gas?

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's a shame they didn't flood it. The thought of wet Nazis being forced to go outside and surrender is hilarious.

    • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They'd be trialed for war crimes, possibly executed. I guess that explains the pointless resistance. Of course the death of hundreds of their soldiers is the price they are willing to pay.

        • Anemasta [any]
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          2 years ago

          Russia has death penalty, there's just a moratorium on it. Politicians were floating starting executions again ever since we've been kicked from European Human Rights Court in February.

          • Anemasta [any]
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            2 years ago

            How do those trials work though? How are you supposed to try enemy combatants for war crimes committed on territory you don't claim jurisdiction over?

            • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              The citizens of Mariupol were terrorized by nazis for years and lots of survivors will gladly testify, legal details I don't know - the territory will become independent entity in some kind of union/federation with Russia and maybe Belarus+some other countries, thus I believe it's laws are yet to be written or adopted formally!?

              As I said I don't really know law, but they won't just let nazis go away, Russians are very serious with that matter.

  • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Awh are their fascist husbands starving to death in a pit eating rats because they refuse to come out and face justice? That’s so sad for them

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Have fun never finding your husband's corpse cuss it got atomized by a bunker buster

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Definitely, honestly been amazed at how the media has suppressed that kind of info as well as similar events of Azov shooting fleeing civilians.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Only the sweet embrace of death can free the Nazis hiding in the basement under Azovstal now. It's either that or facing responsibility for their crimes in Russian courts.

    Those are their only options.

    • nohaybanda [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      the sweet embrace of death

      facing responsibility for their crimes in Russian courts

      :same-picture:

      • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Nah, in Russia they would get only 10-20 years of prison. In Donbass republics, on the other hand, they would get :pit: . Luckily, there are a lot of mineshaft there.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    As a certified woman appreciator, someone please give me the contact details of any Azov wives whose husbands are for-sure going to die.