• Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    the consequences of the sino....-sino? split have been.....ambiguous...for the human race

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Not sure why the US isn't also on both sides

      Wikipedia

      Oh, yeah. Right.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Worked out for them I guess. Good relations with both right now, Iraq recently applied to the BRI

      This conflict is just a horrible thing. Wild to see Syria break with the Soviet Union on it

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, this isn't the first and won't be the last time they get out on top. In the long term, there was next to zero blowback for China whatever the outcome as China was not directly involved in the region short of usual business interests, and China does not discriminate against anyone for business. Ultimate pragmatism I guess :shrug-outta-hecks:

        • kristina [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I can understand it in a cynical way. All capitalism is unethical, might as well trade with everyone to build productive forces as quickly as possible so as to be self sufficient. 'More or less' ethical wouldn't matter in this view. It all sucks.

          • SexMachineStalin [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I just wish China would suspend trade and relations with Israel and then publicly tell the shit to fuck off

  • AnarchoMLDialectic [comrade/them,any]
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    3 years ago

    Everyone points at “lol china both sides” as though Reagan wasn’t selling missiles to the Iranians to fund his Narcofascists in Nicaragua.

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What a fucking shitshow.

    Most of the post Sino-Soviet split communist foreign policy is the most embarrassing shit in the entirety of the communist movement. That goes for all sides involved.

      • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        When you hate Sunnis worse than you hate the Zionists, I guess. Iran is majority Shia, Hezbollah is Shia, and the Baathists in Iraq were Sunni. Shiites are hardly a unified bloc (especially when you get into Arab vs. Persian flavors of Shia Islam), but it makes sense that they'd stick by Iran. Israel was probably just trying to fan the flames and destabilize both the Iranian and Iraqi sides as much as they could get away with, or they figured that Iran would be the lesser threat after the smoke cleared.

        Edit: Or when you don't know you're on the same side as the Zionists. The wiki article says that Israel only provided clandestine support to Iran.

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        If the USSR is siding with the US, that's still probably the right side to be on. See: WWII.

        It's more useful to prioritize aligning with AES than against capitalist imperialists, because there are actually a lot of instances where their interests align, at least temporarily. Since this specific example is the Middle East, though, it is more complicated, because that's definitely where USSR foreign policy was the worst and tended to the imperialistic.