• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    People talk a lot of shit about the lumpenproletariat and I don't understand why. Petty criminals, sex workers, gang members, and mentally ill people seem just as aware of what's going on as anyone else. The real lumpenproletariat that's impossible to organize is suburbanoids. I guess it was different two hundred years ago. I guess the context really is quite different. Now the state has cops to do all it's dirty work, while people who used to be dismissed as lumpen are forced in to a sharp contest with the state by cops and landlords.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      The Black Panther Party argued that lumpen could form the material base for revolution within the imperial core. Revolutionary Intercommunalism is badass

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yes and that's why they started the rainbow coalition. They just demanded that anyone joining the movement leave the confederate flags and shit at the door.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Fuck the Confederate flag obviously, but I've never read anything about the Young Patriots Organization dropping it when they joined the rainbow coalition?

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            My bad actually I wasn't giving the Young Patriots enough credit:

            Over time, the Black Panthers learned to tolerate Confederate flags as intransigent signs for rebellion. Their only stipulation was that the white Young Patriots denounce racism.

            Eventually, Young Patriots rejected their deeply embedded ideas of white supremacy – and even the Confederate flag – as they realized how much they had in common with the Black Panthers and Latino Young Lords.

            https://theconversation.com/chicago-1969-when-black-panthers-aligned-with-confederate-flag-wielding-working-class-whites-68961

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                Wish the "patriotic socialists" of today were as capable of self crit.

                • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Yeah, that'd be nice.

                  They interviewed a former YPO member and one question was about why they chose the symbol and if he thinks trying to reclaim it now is a good idea and here's part of his response that I liked:

                  As we grew politically and respected the Black Panthers and the Young Lords we determined that there was no place in the movement or the world for the Confederate flag. It symbolizes a period of time when our black brothers and sisters were mere property to sold or destroyed at the white man`s convenience. And that the Confederate flag was created to serve as a symbol of plantation owners to perpetuate slavocracy. I would not recommend it's use by any group or anyone or any purpose and believe that it should be destroyed as a tribute to those who suffered pain and anguish in a great dark period of our history.

                • duderium [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Lib theory of mine is that they're being funded by the Russians. Caleb Maupin definitely is. As for haz, I only have suspicions I guess. Patriotic socialists claim to be against American Empire, which would benefit Russia. They're extremely reactionary, which also benefits Russia. If patriotic socialists somehow took over America, everyone would be too busy killing each other here to bother them. But this theory might just be my hangover from Russiagate and I'm essentially writing this because unconsciously, I want to be ridiculed.

                  And the thing is, the people running the USA are already patriotic socialists. They're doing everything they can to MAGA. But the thing is, there's only so much you can polish the poisonous turd that is America. You can't deliver universal health care, for instance—something that would definitely breathe new life into the USA—without infuriating the national bourgeoisie, to the extent that they would coup your ass. But I digress.

                  • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    There are absolutely reactionary elements of the left being fueled by Russia. Libs want to use Russia as a scapegoat and act like the US has some inherent moral high ground. But that doesn’t mean that Russia isn’t indeed doing a lot of the botting and disinfo that they’re accused of. They’re just not the only ones. But they’re not doing so for ideological reasons and should be treated opportunistically like any other capitalist state.

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  • scraeming [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Georges Bataille fucking VIBRATING in his grave right now.

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        • scraeming [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There is no excess energy (wealth) to be expended without growth (in this case, via aesthetic pleasures), and so now conflict with those systems (nations) with excess energy (resources that they themselves cannot fully utilize) becomes ever more likely.

          Bataille, galaxy-brained French horndog that he was, seemed to be on to something.

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    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      A lot I the trains here go “out of service” because there aren’t enough workers, I’m pretty sure. Whether a shortage of maintenance workers or conductors, I’m not too sure. But it’s way too frequent.

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hot-waitress-economic-indicator.asp

    • mittens [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The hot waitress economic index is an offensive and dubious economic indicator

      lmao

    • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The attractive server index was first articulated by Hugo Lindgren in an article for New York Magazine. Lindgren was an American magazine and newspaper writer and editor at the time. He has since gone into Hollywood production, not economics or academia.

      :data-laughing:

  • duderium [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Random economic anecdote, I've been looking through teaching jobs at public schools around where I live and I can't believe how many job openings there are. I've never seen so many, and I've been keeping an eye on them since 2017. So it's true! Nobody wants to work anymore!

    (Obviously it's impossible to live here, the pay is actually decent but it's not enough to afford a house within a commute of one or two hours, covid is out of fucking control, and any fucking minute some Nazi could walk in and shoot everyone, also the unions aren't doing their jobs and are not getting pay raises that are keeping pace with inflation.)

    I should note, with some amusement, that there wasn't a single opening for any English or social studies teaching gigs. I was kind of curious about a part-time language teaching position so I emailed the principal without even sending my resume and she wrote back and seems kind of interested! Not sure I want to do it but yeah, just totally nuts, never seen anything like it.

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Thank you for your service.

      :hero-of-socialist-labor:

  • SickleRick [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    :melon-musk: and :lord-bezos-amused: gotta get out to the strip club and spend money to stave-off the recession

  • Ideology [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Will regular ass people be affected at all by this or just people with investments/property?

    • mittens [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      depends on what's your current employment status, how much money you have saved etc. the most immediate thing you can feel right now is that a lot of vacancies went poof, if you're jobless, you're going to have a hard time getting employed. remember that great resignation shit partly due to employers wanting office workers to return? not happening anymore, because hiring has stalled. even tech goliaths that never really stop hiring have stopped hiring. if you're an office worker this puts you in a hard spot since the only leverage you really got short of organizing is moving to another place. if crisis continues to hit wall street, you can expect companies to start downsizing. and that's just what I can envision immediately.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    Houston is the stripper capital of the Southwest and oil is booming. If strippers are out of work down here, it isn't because people are short on cash. I'm not sure this indicator means what folks think it means. It could be due to... cough oh, I don't know cough. :covid-cool: