Summarized, drinking more than 3 or less cans of beer (4.5%) or one wine bottle (12.5%) a week increases your chances of heart failure in the long-term.

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "3 or less cans"

    ohh yeah whatever :cereal1:

    "a week" :cereal2:

    • Koa_lala [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If you do drink, limit your weekly consumption to less than one bottle of wine

      bruh

    • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If I can't drink 3 light beers a week then I might as well just not drink.

    • Heifer [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      You could actually draw a only semi-inaccurate conclusion from this article that heavy drinking even when you have high blood pressure & obesity ain’t bad for your heart

    • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The fact that the study was only among people over 40 is worth noting. Obviously if you're 39 that doesn't make drinking magically good for you but I would imagine that the effects they've found aren't quite as serious in a younger (and therefore overall healthier) population, at least to some extent

  • CommunistBear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I see nothing about whiskey or vodka so I'm going to assume that I'm fine

  • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Worst drug of all time

    Normalize weed bars where everyone is stoned and drinking is something you do discretely in the bathroom

    • Foolio [any]
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      2 years ago

      Weed has its own bad effects, and unfortunately I think we're gonna start seeing them in the next 10-20 years.

      • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        of course, no drug is without negative side effects. but compared to alcohol weed is like 1% as harmful

        • Foolio [any]
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          2 years ago

          The amount people consume now is far, far more than used to be common before ~10 years ago - it's like the shift from fermented to distilled alcohol. I smoke myself, but it's a little concerning we've never really gotten a large study that matches modern trends.

  • RamsFan [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I mean, alcohol is, for all intents and purposes, a drug, and arguably the deadliest and most harmful one we have by a country mile if you look at alcoholism and the hell it wreaks on everyone around it.

    Not advocating for a return to Prohibition, but I do think how we view drinking needs to change.

    • RonPaulBlart [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Not advocating for a return to Prohibition

      everyone here pretends to be against liberalism, until it means they'd have to tell people that they (the people) can't drink themselves to death lol

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    But they told me drinking low quantities expensive wine causes you to also be the same person that can already afford expensive health care!

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    laughing because I no longer drink alcohol or smoke weed :michael-laugh:

    remembering that I did that shit for ten years :stress:

    remembering that I still do like 400-500 mg of caffeine a day and have a bizarre sleep schedule :stalin-stressed:

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    "Lenin was a prohibitionist and my org actually bans drinking around other members, it's very good for productivity" I type, with a can of cider in my hand

  • Heifer [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    “In the at-risk group, there was no association between moderate or high alcohol use with progression to pre-heart failure or to symptomatic heart failure.”

    Seems of note

    “Our results indicate that countries should advocate lower limits of safe alcohol intake in pre-heart failure patients.”

  • YuccaMan [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    My plans of drinking myself to death by 70 are looking good

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    good thing I don't drink much anymore bc it interacts weird with my amphetamines

  • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    1)Alcohol is confirmed as carcinogen even in the "molecular" doses - cancer-wise there is no safe upper limit, that is - except zero.

    2)Yoghurt and Kefir also contain very small doses of alcohol (IIRC something like ten times less % than beer) - but based on what i've read (mostly on my favorite kefir, which I drink as I type this) the benefits overweight that small downside.

    3)I recently switched to de-alcoholized wine (from drinking maybe a bottle or two yearly - I planned to do it years ago, but just two months ago I finally found some in my local winery), which still contains something like 0.2-0.3% alcohol but again AFAIK the benefits should be "covering" that!?

    Cheers!

    • crispy_lol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don’t mean to sound rude at all but what benefits do you see yourself getting from yoghurt and dealcoholized wine that you can’t get from other foods? If you simply enjoy these I get it, but I’m kinda confused by the balance thing when so many foods exist.

      • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Somewhat strange question (you can theoretically replace any single food with something else), anyway here is a "quick" answer: First of all it's kefir [to be more specific, low=0.5% fat one to minimize saturated fat], superrior to yoghurt in any paper/study I'm aware of (we are talking about hundreds so far); actually I don't even remember my last yoghurt, it was years ago!?

        And wine...my years long research on it's benefits - including reading a lot of studies then drinking then reading some new stuff then testing bloodwork and then all again...plus getting into the (infamous) resveratrol phase and then out of it, it all "culminated" with de-alcoholized wine, and years passed without anything challenging my current conclusion and practice - that is, theoretically it is recommended AFAIK and practically, as I said, I am drinking it for maybe two months and one of the unexpected benefits - this is OFC 100% anecdotal - is better night sleep.