So it turns out the nypd RPD held down and strangled a man in distress untill he died. This happened MONTHS before George Floyd, but it was apparently buried. Recently they released the bodycam footage, showing he pleaded for the police not to shoot as he was disabled, which prompted them to cover his head with an "anti spittle/bite" hood and knelt on him until he died.

From what i've read, no cops have been fired, let alone charged with anything.

No jokes this time.. i'm sad and knackered and i don't know if i have anything insightful to say about this.. but couldn't find this on the chat, i felt like we should know and not let the murder go unknown.

  • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Important to note: NOT NYPD, but RPD, who has their own colorful history of racist policing in the home of the abolitionist and suffragist movement.

      • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        no problem. Its easy to hate the NYPD but theres a whole lot more of NY.

        Rochester is a wonderful city that is taking de-industrializing very hard. Some of the most genuinely nice and good people I've ever met in the country were from Rochester/Western NY.

        Speaking to many people from Rochester is like if Southern Hospitality was genuine.

        • morbx [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Deindustrializing and with it, white flight and redlining. The difference in living standards between neighborhoods and between city and suburbs is drastic, along with quality of education, access to services, etc.

          • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            That too.

            When I first came to Rochester, I was told about "the letter Avenues", which from what I understand are the most impoverished and rough areas.

            I once was in the car with a friend with the windows down and a car pulled up to us and said "ay you need a plug?" to which my friend replied "nah i'm da plug" and they went "WORD" and turned up their music and started dancing in their seats till the light turned green. I love that city.

            I wish there was a solid solution to revive that city. There's so much beautiful late 19th/early 20th century architecture that is basically rotting due to flight in general. Imagine what it would be like if kodak didn't laugh off the digital camera.

    • Harabec [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I admit, I had thought for a while that we were never going to win actual police abolition and that we should push for stripping their responsibilities and keep them from responding to crises. Things like taking their guns away, making them grab something from the trunk or run away if someone starts shooting, residency requirements, some theoretical system that would actually force accountability. Not since all this started. It's been galling to see how people protesting police brutality has been met with this fucking much petulance and cruelty. That NYPD union chief asshole just screaming while dozens of cops stood in solidarity, how George Floyd's killer had a line of cops standing guard at his house, how conservatives and liberals just fell in line the second somebody whistled at them.

      No, we need to push for police abolition because anything short of that is permitting institutional evil to prey on our most vulnerable.

        • Harabec [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          it probably will. Those who control capital will recreate the police if we don't. FBI/ATF/DEA/USPSIS/USSS will become more involved absent cops and while we won't have local cops entering every brown person who wears a colorful backpack on the way home from school into a gang database, we'll have to deal with "community partnership" and "outreach" programs between law enforcement and "communities". By "community" they always mean a handful of Karens, local priests, small business assholes, and one or two people who run a co-opted outreach program that has a multimillion dollar endowment and helps twenty kids at a time.

          • Harabec [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            The only way we win this thing is by going outside, talking to our neighbors, building solidarity and community.

            How many of you know your neighbors' names? How many of you can spell the names of Game of Thrones characters?

      • morbx [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I at least feel like the topic of police abolition has gone from pie in the sky to something that actually gets discussed now, at least. I think plenty of people in the US are at least waking up to not only how brutal the police are, but how indignant and stubborn to even the slightest reforms they are.

        "Body cams!" and "deescalation training!" doesnt seem to work as well now as it did five years ago, now that weve had five more years of evidence of how woefully unaccountable the police are.

        • Harabec [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          You don't.

          What can be done within capitalism is dispersion, displacement, disenfranchisement, intimidation, sabotage, etc. You know all the tricks the GOP and the torries use to hollow out things like USPS, UK rail, the NHS, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, public schooling, basic infrastructure? That. These tools exist. Ultimately we won't even start to move in that direction until we, as a society, grow comfortable with the idea that it's better for a cop to die than to kill.

    • lib_0000429384 [any]
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      4 years ago

      Additional footage:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6G5EvhL1Y4

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Jesus fucking Christ, and they held him on the freezing wet asphalt in the snow for half a goddamn hour, naked. Couldn't put him in a squad car. Just fucking animals.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      4 years ago

      It's a common tactic used by cops for torture. It's extremely uncomfortable, makes it difficult to breathe, basically guaranteed to make you panic. So obviously you'll struggle a bit so they're 100% justified beating you to death or whatever they feel like.

      • Vayeate [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Resisting arrest is the dumbest thing ever. They yank your arm so hard it basically dislocates something, and the fact that you involuntarily resist awful pain makes them justified in beating you and charging you.