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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Yesterday's discussion post.


    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Took me a bit to see it.

      Also funny the caption of photo 2 says “Russian Tochka-U”. Correct me if I’m wrong, Russia has not fired a single Tochka-U this entire invasion

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Just a random guy :shrug-outta-hecks:

        Idk, on one hand they don’t have them, on the other - they could have easily captured them in 8 years and they’ve decommissioned them only 10 years ago. On a hunch I would say likely ukrainian due to general incompetence, maybe 70-30 chance

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          If that is a Tochka-U it is almost certainly Ukrainian. Had it been used by Russia, it would be the only Tochka-U fired by Russia in this war. Instead of the Soviet-era Tochka-U Russia used the more modern Iskander and Kalibr missiles.

    • Eldungeon [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      When the Russians invaded I remember, even left media people were down playing the fascist elements in Ukraine's army and civil society, saying the extent of their influence was negligible and not really a n issue definitely not a reason to NOT support Ukraine, but it sure looks like they're in control of the military and government to me..

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I would not say they aren’t there, I’m just thinking it’s all imperialism in the end, with some thick pretexts in places. It’s all kinda like iraq invasion (or yugoslavia if they partition them). Not like saddam was particularly good dude. Leftists I feel should be opposed to it for the same reason. Liberals supporting ukraine though are completely full of shit.

            • comi [he/him]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Class war looks like civil war tho.

              • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                ·
                3 years ago

                Not necessarily. WW2 was partially a class war. The eastern front was literally the fighting force of the bourgeoise vs. the worlds biggest proletarian base of power. That didn’t look like a civil war.

                US invading Cuba in the bay of pigs was class war, that didn’t look like a civil war.

                • comi [he/him]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  At first it was defensive war, with following class war characteristics when they’ve purged aristocracy/bourgeoisie (which was later, just they’ve had such superior military control at the time, class war didn’t happen).

                  Eh, bay of pigs is just imperialistic war. Or in that sense you can reclassify napoleonic wars as class wars of bourgeoisie versus aristocracy.

                  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
                    ·
                    3 years ago

                    From what I understand the Napoleonic Wars did have a strong class element throughout.

                  • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                    ·
                    3 years ago

                    My point is that you can’t just principally abstain from all wars, declaring them to be inter-imperialist. You have to actually analyze them to determine the correct course. The correct course in WW1 was revolutionary defeatism. The correct course in WW2 for Soviet citizens was not “abstaining” or being principally pacifist

          • comi [he/him]
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            edit-2
            3 years ago

            Kinda sorta, but not really. Russia has both economic levers, has/had significant population buy in in ukraine. They could have put thousands names on the darknet for being nazis, and let enterprising individuals take it. They could have stopped gas flow to europe, and told germany to figure it out with minsk - it would take 2 months for ukraine to yield to capital masters from the west.

            I’m not even going into more based directions of financing unions/antifa - it’s not like nazi problem arose organically, they were financed by oligarchs. However, that avenue is not possible for capitalist state.

        • Fartster [comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Its not really comparable to Iraq invasion in any way except the fact that it is an invasion. The context and conditions are vastly different. You know this.

          • comi [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            they have wmd (security threat)

            they’ll join nato (security threat)

            Huh?

        • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          If Russia never grabbed Crimea and Donbas territories in 2014, Ukraine likely wouldn’t have provoked Russia, and this war likely would’ve never happened. Just because those regions were ethnic Russian doesn’t mean Russia had to grab them. They did it because they could, and it unleashed a whirlwind of shit. But some people here don’t want to admit that.

    • anadyr [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      This shit is on purpose by now, MSM must be filled with Nazis

      • Fartster [comrade/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Or journalists who have seen enough to understand what's up and want to slip some of this through to try and shake things up.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I see nothing weird here, just a normal Ukrainian guy who loves freedom, democracy and... uh... ancient Slavic sun symbols.

        • comi [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Lol, speaking of sun symbols, during one of russians feely good pieces - kids sending stuff to soldiers to support them, there was a photo with kolovrat symbol on some baggie from kids.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      How many Nazis are there that guys with big, obvious Nazi tattoos keep ending up in front of cameras?