Have we reached the tipping point into the cool zone?

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Time to find out if the market will change farming practices (lol)

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    we've been fucking telling them to stop using so much for years idk this kinda feels like a win if they start trying to make do with less/rethink how they go about it

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Cereal production and shortages is heavily correlated with changes in modes of production

      • bort_simp_son [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Fun Fact: Feudalism only really took off in regions with cereals that could be hoarded long-term. Can't control masses of people if you can't control massive amounts of food.

        Besides maize, the western hemisphere didn't really have durable cereals which is why no individuals could ever hoard enough food to declare themselves a lord to any systemic degree.

        I already forgot why I brought this up.

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    pesticides have pretty bad long term effects on agriculture and climate so reconing with this now is probably better than dealing with the long term affects of continued heavy pesticide use

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        yeah but there are non pesticide ways of dealing with insects and the way we are currently doing it hugely damages the ecosystem including polinators vital to farming

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It's just that the farming practices aren't going to change in the next 2 months and this shortage won't even exist next year, so this is just gonna destroy a ton of short term food capacity during the goddamned Ukraine war and massive heat waves hitting North America

          • nohaybanda [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I admire your optimism this shit show will only last 2 months

            • SerLava [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I'm not, I'm saying in 2 to 4 months this crop is gonna need harvesting, and it's gonna be fucked up already.

              • nohaybanda [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                :yea: I know. Just wanted to inject an extra dose of :rust-darkness:

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      That would definitely be the cool zone, because you can't feed 8 billion with organic farming methods and capitalist overproduction/waste.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Once Siberia thaws and we start seeing the Arctic become a source of stormfront activity, the Russian north is going to become the heartland of Eurasia. I hope they don't cock up their agricultural sector as badly as we did our own.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    They'll be fine, farmers have been raking it in with food prices being so high. Mostly the banks will be upset that their returns arent as high.

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Farmers sell wholesale price. It’s only the people who are in the middle who are getting rich.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Nah, you can contract at higher prices if you pay alittle extra upfront. Have to borrow from the bank to do so, leveraging is basically the only option these days, but you can make a bunch of money right now if you are farming. The issue is if you suffer like two bad seasons in a row you go under. The banks and the middle men just are the only ones not taking any risk (aside from purely monetary).

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "The price of freedom is worth paying!" :bojo:

    Right?

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    Maybe this year's failed wheat crop will have lessened demand? :yea:

    Anecdotally: I live out in farm country and this summer has seemed way buggier than even last years so far, wonder if that's related