free markets
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Also what the fuck does "personal freedom" even mean? I've tried to get an answer out of chuds before and it's like nailing jello to the wall.
the freedom to exploit others is what bourgeois "property rights" ultimately are. but they never word it that way. No idea why. :blob-no-thoughts:
for a long time racist and discriminatory behavior was defended with dogwhistles like "freedom of association"
And freedom of association was quickly, effortlessly withdrawn when it was found convenient to do so. to whit; the police infiltrating every social movement, ever, over the course of the 20th and 21st century, your freedom of speech and association be damned.
Yup. The freedom of speech argument is a really good one to get libs to at least open up to looking left. You have the “freedom” to say something, but if you can’t yield the speech in any meaningful way without being murdered, how much does that freedom really matter.
Exactly. The better the social welfare the more “free” we are. God knows how much of a set back it is for me every time I have to deal with my health or housing or whatever “social welfare” affecting things myself
I think ultimately these things either refer to “freedom” as a incoherent propagandistic ideal that the masses are trained to have a Pavlov response to and go “oh that’s the good one.” Or it’s a dog whistle to exploiters to know it means freedom to exploit. Or a little column a column b.
Dumb as hell, but props for making social democracy the reasonable center, instead of the status quo like every other horseshoe theory brain genius.
There's a reason social democracy is the status quo for "developed" countries: Because it relies on imperialism to fuel social welfare. Bourgeois reforms involve decrease pressure on the domestic labor, and increased pressure on the imperial periphery. The bourgeoisie sacrifice very little with social democracy, which is why they allow it every century or so as a sort of bourgeois-guided "redistribution".
Dumb as hell, but props for making social democracy the reasonable center
Social democracy is just capitalists realizing it's in their own long term interests to curtail their short term interests. It is ultimately bourgeois rule. The New Deal extended the life of American Capitalism by about 70 years. Scraps from porky's table. The moderate wing of fascism. :bugs-stalin:
This is actually incoherent.
It is our goal to adopt a new model
This new model, called "Social Democracy," is the form that most developed nations already employ today
Also, if social democracy was so optimal, how would someone like Reagan come to power and dismantle it?
Social democracy is probably as "optimal" capitalism can get for the working class, but absolutely not optimal for plutocrats and oligarchs. No prizes for guessing which of those classes Reagan served.
That's slightly inaccurate. Social democracy is certainly that old, e.g. the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) was founded in 1863, but when Lenin talks about "social democracy" he usually means something a little different, closer to the modern definition of plain old socialism.
True. More correct to say he was apart of the Russian Social Democrats until they split into the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks
Not murdering any minorities <-------> Optimal balance of minorities murdered <-------> Murdering all the minorities
quote their own heroes at them:
Does moderation consist in maintaining the center between two variable points? Which, when we say four plus four make eight, and an exaggerated claim pretends they make ten, believes it is more reasonable to maintain four plus four makes nine? - Lafayette
oh boy, I sure do wonder which ideology the creator of this perfectly neutral infographic subscribes to!
Ah I see, the inherent contradictions of capitalism are nothing but a spectrum.
Everything is a fucking spectrum for the libs (except for their transphobia & enbyphobia and bi/pan erasure lol) so they can declare themselves the rational centrists
when you learn about box and whisker plots in 3rd grade and decide to make everything you believe the box
Who the fuck reads that description of socialism and thinks "you know what that's just too much for me we need to be more capitalist".
If your market freedoms infringe on social freedoms I do not give a flying fuck.
i believe in Goodism, which stands in direct opposition to all other positions, which are different forms of a single ideology known as Badism
I am a correctist and have made it my life's work to disabuse incorrectists, who hold the overwhelming majority today and have for all recorded history.
