Like every time I read the comments for any movie/show that features anything other than a white dude as the lead, everyone is like "tHe w0Ke cRoWd WiLL LoVE ThIs!!1!"
It's especially bad for anything Disney, which according to them, is a communist factory for LGBTQIA+ PEDO GROOMING or some other conspiracy nonsense. Granted, Disney is fully deserving of scathing criticism, but for different reasons.
Has anyone else noticed this? It's just weird to me because I view torrenting as a very anti-capitalist activity, but that seems to be lost on them?
Because everyone else just gets the torrent and leaves. Comments are only necessary on torrent sites when it's to say that a torrent is bad.
But chuds love to whine about their culture war shit wherever they can, so they end up being the only ones leaving comments.
It's the same reason local subreddits are flooded with chud comments, the wailing right wing nerds get pleasure from starting arguments etc, while everybody else has better shit to do
They're a lot like that in person too. The kind of chud who's so baked in conspiracies and politics that they can't help but "joke" about it or make some passing reference every other second.
I work with multiple people like this and I hate it so much. I wouldn’t really have a problem being around with conservatives if they could just keep it to themselves most of the time, but they can’t help bringing up politics even in completely unrelated conversations.
What’s ironic about it too is they’re usually the type to say something like “woke SJWs can believe whatever they want, just don’t shove it in my face!”
What’s ironic about it too is they’re usually the type to say something like “woke SJWs can believe whatever they want, just don’t shove it in my face!”
Much like they're mad that Pink Floyd/Waters and RATM keep putting "politics" into their music all of a sudden. They're purely reactionaries so they only recognize politics different from their own as "politics", their own beliefs are just "normal" to them.
because everyone likes free stuff, and fascists typically have less going on in real life than human beings.
we took the wrong lesson from the rightward slide of every part of the internet 10 years ago. the solution wasn't to make moderation good, it was to get people to stop wasting their time on this dumb bullshit.
never, but people are still trying to make it happen
Centralised email-based blacklist that crosses over all websites would work but not in control of capitalists lmao.
Basically nothing works controlled by capitalists I can offer no solutions other than removing the capitalists.
They wouldn't work because everyone would still be online, which would be bad
might have to do with torrenting mostly occupying a certain age group and demographic now. Younger crowds don't torrent, they either don't pirate at all or use streaming.
i remember torrenting and piracy groups being the same as what you're talking about even like 20 years ago. They always had a large amount of weird libertarian tech bro chuds involved. Every piracy oriented IRC channel I was in would have regular talks about chud adjacent conspiracy theories or they'd casually throw around racist slurs. It took until gamergate to coalesce them into more focused political derangement though. I remember getting kicked out of a torrenting group in like 2008 because I asked them to stop saying slurs.
so I guess what I'm saying is torrenting is probably full of the same people as it was back then
The 00's libertarians love the Wild West aspect of piracy, but obsess over the value of what they pirate. :libertarian-approaching:
Leftists torrent because they understand that intellectual property is theft.
Chuds torrent because they don't think the rules should apply to them.
Liberals sanctimoniously refuse to torrent because they respect the rights of artists (who they cannot distinguish from copyright corporations).
A lot of the people in this thread are talking only about public torrent sites. Private torrent sites are a bit different but equally full of chuds. I've chatted with many people on private torrent sites over this exact same topic. I've even talked with the some of the site operators on their motivations.
Most of the people that I've talked to say something like they want to pay for the content but they can't fit it into their budget. They say they like copyright but they make up rules as to justify violating the copyright. I met very few people that were actually leftist and against copyright.
Many of the site operators had jobs in IT and liked to maintain the website as a hobby. These were all non-profit torrent sites.
Chuds love secret club. We've seen all the secret symbols chuds have to communicate with each other. There's also all the right wing militias, the Klan, etc. Torrent sites are kind of like a secret society: the sites a mostly unknown to the public, you access it with an alias, some of the sites require special credentials to enter.
4ch*n, as we know is a chud site, is absolutely obsessed with private torrent sites. There's a 24/7 dedicated thread on 4ch*n for discussing private torrent sites, how to get in, community drama, etc.
Torrenting is not really socialist. It's similar to squatting, shoplifting, community garden, carpooling, open source, etc. These thing are all good but they don't actually threaten capitalist hegemony. Torrenting is not revolutionary.
With that being said, torrenting isn't just downloading. Torrenting is peer to peer. Somebody has to buy the media, somebody has to convert the media, somebody has to upload the media, somebody has to seed the media. If you are just downloading, you are being selfish. Torrenting is about sharing.
Thanks for giving a thoughtful and non-salty response.
Private torrent sites are a bit different but equally full of chuds.
Yes, I should have clarified that I was referring to private indexes, not public.
Torrenting is not revolutionary.
This is a fair point, and I guess I never really thought of it as revolutionary, but like you mentioned more of a "squatters rights" kinda mentality.
Torrenting is about sharing.
I agree with this 100% - that's why I have seeds that are at least 2 years old at this point, and I don't plan on removing them. And on that note - maybe the better question to ask is whether or not someone's seeding history relates to their political ideology?
It's incredible to me how filled with chuds private trackers are. Some of them are full-blown nazis, the guy who runs Concertos is definitely a nazi.
I know torrenting is not revolutionary or anticapitalist in and of itself, but I would have expected these people to at least have some sort of critic about how their precious media is being siloed behind digital paywalls, but the closest most people get to voice a critique against corporations is "Netflix's wokeness is destroying anime titties and western society". In my 2 years of being around private trackers, I have only met two or three people who are probably comrades.
I guess it's not surprising when you start to think about the demographics of the people who torrent: White, male, middle-class and above, between their 20s-40s and with some kind of background on computers.
It's interesting that you have had the chance to talk with operators about their reasons behind administering a tracker, would love to read some sort of digital ethnography on a private tracker.
Seconded.
It's embarrassing that I need to admit this, but it took me longer than it should have to realize that CHUDs are not the complete opposite of us. If I like open source software, CHUDs aren't going to defend Windows or Mac tooth and nail, and our actions can overlap but for differing reasons.
chuds aren't capitalist or socialist they just want to kill non-white people and gay people and Jews
yeah but all the russians doing all the work are hardcore commies though
wait is Fitgirl a commie fr? I never really look into the people behind the scenes when I pirate shit
Idk if they're communists ( I doubt it, I remember some reactionary language, though she used to do this weekly special event of uploading obscure Russian films, often Soviet), but she's Russian.
I like the clubs because the quality is better. I've let my access lapse however. Can't afford a new gfx card 😭
Never forget chuds are obnoxious and loud so they'll be the first to vent their 'grievances'
because libs hate anticapitalism more than chuds do, and have 'support the creator' brainworms even for megacorps like disney
Why the fuck would you ever read the comments on a torrenting site
Death to America
Have you tried literally any other hobby? Or do you just get off on self harm
Death to America
They found comment sections that haven't banned them yet, it's not more complicated than that. Solution is to moderate/purge those comment sections
Have CHUDs EVER had an opportunity to run their mouth and chose to shut the fuck up instead?
Like it or not, CHUDs are everywhere and they will NEVER shut up. It's like the old Gary Motherfucking Oak meme, they think they're perfect and they want you to know about it.
