• blakeus12 [he/him]
      ·
      3 months ago

      ok, gotcha. trains are too expensive, so we're doing 3 diesel buses that cover 1/8 of your city and nowhere else. and we're adding a lane to 50 highways cause fuck you

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        I think hydrogen buses and trucks actually have a use case over battery EVs, being that they're much faster to refuel.

        • wopazoo [he/him]
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          edit-2
          3 months ago

          Trolleybuses

          BEV buses allow for partial trolleyification

          BEV trucks getting powered by overhead wires on a highway is another interesting throught

  • WafflesTasteGood [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    My understanding is this isn't really that big of a deal. Hydrogen fuel cells aren't anywhere near as bad as stuffing lithium batteries in a vehicle at least.

    Ultimately doesn't matter tho since hydrogen cars are just PR fluff and a way to snag eco tax breaks or other nonsense. Hydrogen really likes to leak out of everything and it's causes weird corrosion and breakdown of metals. This makes storage and delivery complicated and impractical for both large infrastructure like gas stations and on the individual vehicles in the fuel cell and connection lines.

    • regul [any]
      ·
      3 months ago

      Works great for zeppelins, though.

    • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
      ·
      3 months ago

      Apparently Japan has some decent hydrogen infrastructure. A friend rented a car in Japan and it was hydrogen powered.

      • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]
        ·
        3 months ago

        Japan wants to import (synthesized with renewables) ammonia to burn in thermal power plants. Their future energy policy is pretty ridiculous. Like, if you're actually considering ammonia power plants then you might as well just build a big solar farm in geosynchronous orbit.

        • SSJ2Marx
          ·
          3 months ago

          a big solar farm in geosynchronous orbit.

          Last I heard JAXA was planning to launch a proof-of-concept for this technology in 2025, dunno if that's still on schedule or not.

    • itappearsthat [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      the only people I ever see talking about hydrogen are boomers. I think they just can't imagine a world where they operate their car with different expectations & routines than the current world.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      You just described the main problems with hydrogen cars. They offer no practical advantage over any typical EV. Typical lithium batteries are around twice as effective as hydrogen fuel cells and don't have any of the complicated problems with storage/delivery/etc. Furthermore the obvious solution is to have fewer cars.

    • Egon [they/them]
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      3 months ago

      When it comes to hydrogen my worry isn't the cars, it's the gas stations

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      3 months ago

      Why the hell I can't ever understand outsider comments.

      I'm not attacking you, it's just really weird, whenever I get a reply from another instance I can never even get what are they talking about

        • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
          ·
          3 months ago

          Good times, bad times, you know I've had my share

          When my woman left home for a brown-eyed man

          But I still don't seem to care

      • gunter [he/him]
        ·
        3 months ago

        The news guy at the time covering the hindenburg at one point in the video of the crash says "oh the humanity"

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      3 months ago

      Update: I should have tried googling a little bit, I'm sorry

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
    ·
    3 months ago

    one of my chud coworkers was talking about this excitedly. He keeps saying things like "The next logical step is nuclear cars."

    The logical step is to have fewer cars to begin with, not fitting them with even more explosive expensive things. Build trains and busses. Hydrogen fuel cell cars already exist and they have literally no benefits over a typical battery powered EV other than they make bigger, cooler looking explosions.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        I've always hated the flying cars promise. Flying planes already exist and work fine (mostly). Flying cars is just adding more lanes in the air rather than just...making bus and bike lanes or something normal

        • booty [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Flying cars soypoint-2 people are just people who fantasize about being the only guy with a flying car and never thought about what happens when someone else also has a flying car

          • D61 [any]
            ·
            3 months ago

            Force them to watch the opening 20 minutes or so of "The Fifth Element" on a loop until they change their mind.

  • D61 [any]
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    edit-2
    3 months ago

    The Ford Pinto 2.

    explosion