• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    Not to mention the people on the sub were fucking idiots that stupidly decided to do some tourism is a deathtrap VS 6 people that were just doing their job

    • Nationalgoatism [any]
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      8 months ago

      It would take a miracle to last that long in cold water with no wetsuit though

  • Rom [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    The submarine had billionaires on it. Wealthy people are the only lives the state cares about.

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    I get the point being made, but iirc there was no real confirmation that the sub had exploded initially, and so there was the belief that they might’ve been just floating around down there still alive but unable to communicate with the surface. Whereas with this I think it’s a more surefire thing that they’re dead - like unless they’re clinging to debris or were able to swim to shore, I’d imagine the only other option is they’re drowned

    • Southloop [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      The water at the time was around 40 Fahrenheit/9 Celsius. That gives you, if you survive the fall — which includes not inhaling water with the human gasp response when you hit the cold water or breaking you pelvis/legs/back on the at-that-height now concrete-consistency water (~20 feet/7 meters or above) — a rough seven minutes to get to shore and wrapped up nice, tight, and warm to prevent hypothermia.

  • Elon_Musk [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    Humans don't usually live under water for days at a time..... unless they're in a submarine

    • idkmybffjoeysteel [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      They knew they were dead from the beginning, they just wanted to send a message that they will spare no expense. It was expected, so they did it.

      • Elon_Musk [none/use name]
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        8 months ago

        nor do they survive for days in frigid water. Nor do they avoid detection for days while floating on the surface next to the biggest news story in the country. soypoint-2

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      8 months ago

      There were also political reasons to keep looking for the submarine even though survival was extremely unlikely

      So you concede to the original fuckin point yet demand we still ignore the obvious and callous disregard authorities and the media have for the lives of workers?

      You have no idea what you're trying to say do you?

    • NuraShiny [any]
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      8 months ago

      I think rescue efforts should be strictly allotted their resources by how funny and dramatically appropriate it would be if the people in question died. So in the case of the bridge, making an effort would be fine, but they should NEVER have tried finding that submarine and should have in fact shot the people on it if it had returned safely.

      • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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        8 months ago

        they should NEVER have tried finding that submarine and should have in fact shot the people on it if it had returned safely.

        miyazaki-laugh

      • D61 [any]
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        8 months ago

        20 years from now some sailor will tell a wild story of actually finding the sub's wreckage and survivors after the news, the authorities, and their families all officially accepted their deaths.

        After quietly contacting the families, the sailor recalls the crew being offered an obscene amount of money to make sure that the knowledge that there were survivors is never made public.

        When asked why anybody should believe him, what proof does he have, he points to the couch were the interviewer is sitting and says, "Thats one of the pillows we used to smother them."

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      There was zero chance of anyone being alive in that sub after six days, and there was basically nothing that could have pulled it to the surface from such a depth.

      we can just respect that this is a tragedy and those families deserve to morne without their relatives

      lol, says guy justifying the lack of effort in trying to save those people. I'd rather a living relative than "mourne".

    • booty [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      The others were presumed missing in a submarine until pieces of it were found

      Why were they "presumed missing" long after "obviously dead" is the only logical conclusion?