The whole reason that furries are so kinky like that is because they are extremely gay/queer. Queer people tend to fuck a lot and be quite kinky. All criticism of furries you can swap "furry" for "gay", and it's literally word for word exactly the same shit homophobes say.
Furry hate is just a way for homophobes to publicly say homophobic things and face less backlash.
On Chapo, Christman once said that the rise of incest porn was because capitalist alienation had made everyone so lonely that it is fucking with sexual barometers, or something like that. I don't know if that is true, but if it is I feel it'd go a long way to explaining all these bizarre internet-spawned fetishes.
There's probably something to that...but on the other hand a brief look at 17th/18th century porn (or the walls of a roman brothel) will tell you these aren't exactly new fetishes
I've always favored a simpler explanation for the rise of incest roleplay porn: you can take literally any porn scenario, change a few of the words, and suddenly it's "incest porn" in addition to whatever other genres it already belonged to. Not only is it free taboo that doesn't require your actors to physically do anything they might not be comfortable with, it also means any viewers not into that can easily tune it out since it's otherwise a standard porn scene.
I've always wondered if part of the reason for step-incest porn is that it's an easy and (porn-)logical way to explain why a hot person is in your house ready to have sex with you despite you putting zero effort towards making that happen. Same as how the pizza delivery guy thing was never about the pizza (not even in cases where the pizza is involved).
I'm sure some element of incest fetishism is at play too, but part has to just be that writing "help me step-bro I'm stuck" is easy boilerplate porn writing
The loli fetish is clearly sublimed noncery. The Furry thing is...they don't want to screw ducks, they want to screw Donald Duck. Which, again, super weird, but also a fictional representation of an adult, sentient, consenting character which is more a human with some duck features than anything else.
And not really any different from wanting to screw, say, an anime catgirl, or even Arwen Evenstar as far as I can tell. Neither of which is considered particularly unhealthy provided the person is otherwise functional.
Frankly, less so than Jane Eyre fantasies which would make half the het women in the west unwell.
/r/socialism tried to ban catgirls several years ago and they were routinely ridiculed for this exact take and it they eventually went back on it after the whole left made fun of them.
It is a really really silly take. For one petplay is a fetish that people outright enjoy, it's a sub/dom thing, and it's perfectly ok like every other sub/dom thing. And for two it isn't always petplay it's just liking catgirls, people like raccoon girls too is that magically different? What about batgirls? None of these are pets. It's not always a pet thing at all. Specifically singling out the cats is really silly.
And you fail to distinguish between literally any sexual attraction to anthro girls and the petplay kink.
I get it, there is a subset of this that is dedicated to the concept of owning women and some of its proponents do not distinguish between it as a simple kink and it as a genuine outlet for mysogyny. But that is what it is -- a niche within a niche. You are deliberately ignoring that and expanding it into any and all sexual attraction people might have to women with fucking cat ears and tails which is as I said previously, utterly ridiculous.
If you think a girl is cute and them think she is still cute when she wears a cat ear hairband that’s one thing, but having a “thing” for animalistic people – which you keep generalizing away from for some odd reason – is very different.
You wanna call them animalistic people we can call them that, I don't give a shit what we call them it changes absolutely nothing about the point. Really I don't know why you have a problem with the word anthropormorphic, it means the same thing, humans with animal features.
There is a fundamental difference between animalistic people that are clearly just humans with animal features vs literal animal people that behave and act like animals who clearly have questionable levels of consent. Extrapolating this to everything is, as I keep saying, ridiculous. It's also a completely separate issue to the "misogyny" inherent to treating women like pets, which as I mentioned previously coincides with infantilisation, mansplaining attitudes and so on. Again though, this is not inherent to everything and your dogged insistence that it is doesn't lend itself to understanding any of the problems properly at all.
I get the sense that someone with the username “Awoo” who uses the term “anthropomorphic” to mean “having animal features” might have a dog in this fight, if you’ll pardon the pun.
Good job finding the way to be as weird about this as possible :yikes:
counterpoint: the furry fandom does have serious issues (related to grooming + sa more than the pictures on the Internet people hyperfocus on because they're more entertaining), but have you heard of "heterosexuals"
I'm not sure I'd compare even the fetish Furries to fetish Bronies.
Like, weird kink, not my thing, not into it, but fine, consenting adults portraying consenting adults who just happen to be anthropomorphic animals.
The whole reason that furries are so kinky like that is because they are extremely gay/queer. Queer people tend to fuck a lot and be quite kinky. All criticism of furries you can swap "furry" for "gay", and it's literally word for word exactly the same shit homophobes say.
Furry hate is just a way for homophobes to publicly say homophobic things and face less backlash.
all ten straight furries can stop being horny in public too
On Chapo, Christman once said that the rise of incest porn was because capitalist alienation had made everyone so lonely that it is fucking with sexual barometers, or something like that. I don't know if that is true, but if it is I feel it'd go a long way to explaining all these bizarre internet-spawned fetishes.
There's probably something to that...but on the other hand a brief look at 17th/18th century porn (or the walls of a roman brothel) will tell you these aren't exactly new fetishes
I've always favored a simpler explanation for the rise of incest roleplay porn: you can take literally any porn scenario, change a few of the words, and suddenly it's "incest porn" in addition to whatever other genres it already belonged to. Not only is it free taboo that doesn't require your actors to physically do anything they might not be comfortable with, it also means any viewers not into that can easily tune it out since it's otherwise a standard porn scene.
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I've always wondered if part of the reason for step-incest porn is that it's an easy and (porn-)logical way to explain why a hot person is in your house ready to have sex with you despite you putting zero effort towards making that happen. Same as how the pizza delivery guy thing was never about the pizza (not even in cases where the pizza is involved).
I'm sure some element of incest fetishism is at play too, but part has to just be that writing "help me step-bro I'm stuck" is easy boilerplate porn writing
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I'm...not sure it's the same thing, frankly.
The loli fetish is clearly sublimed noncery. The Furry thing is...they don't want to screw ducks, they want to screw Donald Duck. Which, again, super weird, but also a fictional representation of an adult, sentient, consenting character which is more a human with some duck features than anything else.
And not really any different from wanting to screw, say, an anime catgirl, or even Arwen Evenstar as far as I can tell. Neither of which is considered particularly unhealthy provided the person is otherwise functional.
Frankly, less so than Jane Eyre fantasies which would make half the het women in the west unwell.
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Is fetishizing catboys still misogynistic?
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If someone asked me to describe discourse online in a single sentence, I'd probably go for yours.
Honestly feels like you should be given a :hero-of-socialist-labor: as a reward.
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Is that a trick question?
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/r/socialism tried to ban catgirls several years ago and they were routinely ridiculed for this exact take and it they eventually went back on it after the whole left made fun of them.
It is a really really silly take. For one petplay is a fetish that people outright enjoy, it's a sub/dom thing, and it's perfectly ok like every other sub/dom thing. And for two it isn't always petplay it's just liking catgirls, people like raccoon girls too is that magically different? What about batgirls? None of these are pets. It's not always a pet thing at all. Specifically singling out the cats is really silly.
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No I'm sorry but this take is still horrible today.
Some of it is mysogynistic. Some of it is not. Claiming all girls portrayed anthropomorphically is mysogyny is frankly fucking ridiculous.
Not what I said
Then elaborate.
Read what I already wrote! The topic is sexual fetishes.
And you fail to distinguish between literally any sexual attraction to anthro girls and the petplay kink.
I get it, there is a subset of this that is dedicated to the concept of owning women and some of its proponents do not distinguish between it as a simple kink and it as a genuine outlet for mysogyny. But that is what it is -- a niche within a niche. You are deliberately ignoring that and expanding it into any and all sexual attraction people might have to women with fucking cat ears and tails which is as I said previously, utterly ridiculous.
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You wanna call them animalistic people we can call them that, I don't give a shit what we call them it changes absolutely nothing about the point. Really I don't know why you have a problem with the word anthropormorphic, it means the same thing, humans with animal features.
There is a fundamental difference between animalistic people that are clearly just humans with animal features vs literal animal people that behave and act like animals who clearly have questionable levels of consent. Extrapolating this to everything is, as I keep saying, ridiculous. It's also a completely separate issue to the "misogyny" inherent to treating women like pets, which as I mentioned previously coincides with infantilisation, mansplaining attitudes and so on. Again though, this is not inherent to everything and your dogged insistence that it is doesn't lend itself to understanding any of the problems properly at all.
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Thank you for noticing!
Good job finding the way to be as weird about this as possible :yikes:
counterpoint: the furry fandom does have serious issues (related to grooming + sa more than the pictures on the Internet people hyperfocus on because they're more entertaining), but have you heard of "heterosexuals"