https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/x2bsa7/states_that_give_vs_those_that_take/

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  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yup and at the same time the rural farmland cannot survive without the import and export of coastal urban centers and connected industrial manufacturing centers and the resultant consumption. Like wtf do these peeps think that rural America could function without mass fertilizer import and manufacturing? Or hell keep mass harvesting and farming equipment going without oil/energy? The whole rural vs urban is a classiest styled divide that is done to wedge apart proletarian unity

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      One look at this is that the only reason rural food producing zones need that trade is to boost harvests to be able to produce for the urban centres.

      So, the rural areas could be self sufficient without urban centre trade, but urban centre trade provides economic input into rural centres to support itself.

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Ngl this was my original thought years ago until the realization of how fucked the topsoil is and how yield returns are only possible by the interconnection of rural and urban manufacturing/industrial zones giving endless fertilizer/materials to make up for this continuing deficiency. Now farmers could indeed go to a regenerative model but that would in essence require more manpower and man hours to accomplish which is something that rural America would never want to admit (it already does not want to admit how vital migrant farm workers are to actual production and how fucked they would be without them getting funneled to them via the state worker visa programs). A big indicator of this failing though is how many farmers are similar to kulaks/petit boug in that they themselves work their land marginally compared to current outputs from industrialized resource usage. So yeah you could go independent and scale down to a smaller farm but that isn't what rural America says when they continuously "threaten" independence, it's similar to how supporters of Brexit did not understand how well negotiated their spot is within the global industrial exchange system (any aatempt to break from it would remove those ignored benefits).

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        So, the rural areas could be self sufficient without urban centre trade

        self-sufficient enough to get conquered by a more organized country after they secede, yea