My personal "favourite" comment
Just wanted to add, its ok to mourn the loss of a strong woman, even if the firm she represented and the work she did was wrong in so many ways. Rarely is any single person all good or all bad. She was a bad ass during WWII, doing work “girls” didn’t do up till then. She led a very disciplined life and worked tirelessly at her role. Unfortunately, the work she did, and so much of what she represented was painfully awful. Just goes to remind us that being a strong female is not enough if the way you live causes harm. My wish is that in her next go round at life she learns to take her strength and apply it for the good of other people.
Sitting at +133 upvotes lmao such revolutionaries on there.
I expected nothing other than this, but the irony of it is still funny to me.
Witches pining for monarchy, only on Reddit
Clearly it's because Matthew Hopkins was on the Parliamentarian side of the Civil War
My take is that it's like a fun larper sub but larp is as far as it goes and you see the truth of that in moments like this. Yeah no shit if you live a life causing harm people are going to remember that shit. Especially if they are or are related to the people harmed.
I remember some clip a while back of a Kenyan woman who had her legs fucked up during "The Emergency" during the Mau Mau rebellion before Kenyan independence. Still limps, worse now with old age. There are living examples of the brutality of the British empire.
Yeah like I know people, from Afrikaners, to Zulus and Xhosa, whose grandparents and great grandparents have told them stories of being fed sugar laced with crushed glass at British concentration camps in South Africa. ( I mentioned the different ethnicities because some idiots think only Afrikaners were put in concentration camps). This was real, it happend it was terrible. Of course we're going to sing "fok die Engelse" and be happy when the queen dies.
On one hand that’s awful, on the other boars being forced to eat glass is based.
I mean it was before apartheid (still segregation back then) and was just British imperialism, it's not like the Brits were trying to liberate South Africa by killing the boers, and the whole reason the British even put black Africans in camps was because they thought that they would help the boers instead of them. (No idea why the British thought that, the biggest reason for the boers doing the great trek in the first place was the outlawing of slavery... Obviously the boers treated black Africans extremely poorly given that context)
My second favourite.
I do not mourn her, but I'm not liking the sexist vitriol aimed at her. As in, the people saying "she didn't work a day in her life" and I feel like they're downplaying women's work.
Saying that being a royal isn't a real job is now sexism lmao.
The :cope: from so called progressive women that looked up to the queen as an unironic girlboss is astounding.
Apparently yes, a person on there was going off about how when Phillip died everyone was nice, even though I remember completely differently.
As I said, just :cope:
Like there is a ton of sexism around and double standards, but this is not it. In the same way thinking :hillgasm: is evil is not sexist.
The queen was to busy playing with corgis and drinking tea with Paddington bear to do any of that silly!
Rarely is any single person all good or all bad. She was a bad ass during WWII, doing work “girls” didn’t do up till then.
You know you’ve gotta hand it to him, Hitler was a badass during WWI.
Also the whole queen working during WW2 was a propaganda photoshoot, that these people clearly fell for.
Also, girls and women definitely and provably did work (and I mean actual, real work, not running around in a uniform tailed by a photographer) as ambulance drivers, beginning at least in the first World War.
Even if it wasn't a PR stunt what she fictionally did was hardly anything new.
Yeah women's labour was pretty badly exploited in the factories and industry during WW2 while most of the men went to fight if my history is correct
Marginalized people are used to offset the boom bust cycle. If you hire marginalized people during a boom and its accompanying labor shortage, you can lay them off just as easily when the crash hits. So you essentially create a tiered system when some people always have consistent work while others can’t seem to keep work. These people are literally celebrating the proletarianization of women
No no you don't understand, it's based and cool to take advantage of women!
In Canada women entered the labour force in pretty large numbers during WWI. Canada committed such a high proportion of its population that women were needed in factories to maintain productive capacity. Also they served in the military as nurses.
They did the same in many countries, the idea that "girls didn't work" is just wrong in general
So was Otto Dix, but instead of swallowing German exceptionalism without question he actually took a meaningful anti-war stance and got really good at painting.
The daughters of the people who didn't want black people to eat at the same restaurant
Them trying to reconcile their social progressivism with their nostalgia and melancholy towards the figurehead of colonialism and imperialism is incredibly funny to read. So they can feel sad for the queen while supporting decolonization somehow.
Which is the true liberal mindset, in that nothing affects anything else.
This is the core contradiction of "progressivism" in the Imperial Core: profound chauvinism. It undergirds everything and when you recognize it, you'll see it everywhere.
These are the same same people who say "well do you think the Taliban is going to spend that money on the people?" when you bring up the US looting Afghanistan's Treasury, all while their own government fails to provide for their basic needs.
It doesn't take much work to imagine some 1930s German progressive, hearing about that terrible famine in the Soviet Union but refusing to send aid because "well do you think the Soviet government is going to spend that money on the people?"
Or, a decade later, mourning the loss of Eva Braun because she "meant so much to the German people."
It's just the key "nothing effects anything else" narrative that liberalism pushes. Everything exists in a vacuum, don't think about it too much and just do the next "right thing" mindset.
Decolonization? Oh that's right I support it. The queen dying? Oh ok that's sad, I'll mourn that. I'm just doing whatever feels right you see? Don't think about it too hard
Unfortunately, the work she did, and so much of what she represented was painfully awful.
Yeah, and thats what makes her a shit person. Come the fuck on :emilie-come-on:
Like it's right there, in their faces.
Another comment was like "yeah the queen is an evil racist colonizer but we sang god save the queen in school and I'm sad now", which is just, uhh it shows how effective indoctrination can be.
Shit, didn't know we had CrossCode icons.
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Apparently being drunk before lunch every day whilst being waited on 24/7 is a very disciplined life.
Using taxpayer money to bail out pedo family members is also tireless and honest work, didn't you know?
Basically every thing positive I've heard or read about the Queen in the last week is just astonishingly untrue and provable by the endless books and articles written about her over the years by the very sycophantic royalists who at the time thought it was oh so whimsical or whatever.
I think a bunch of adults desperately want real life to be like a Disney movie where the Royals are noble and just, from the princes and princesses to the queens and kings. So they latch on to the real life royal family in the UK as some last bastion of hope
hey hey most of their income wasn't based on taxpayer money, but merely from rents extracted from their vast capital and land holdings as well as bribes from business magnates and dark money networks, which ultimately *might * have come from tax-paying citizens, but also from tax-evading bourgeoise and aristocrats.
I rate this claim 4 Pinocchios :pinocchio-evil: :pinocchio-evil: :pinocchio-evil: :pinocchio-evil:
No you don't understand the queen was always around as a kind and unifying presence and ol' Lizzy would never do such!
She was a bad ass during WWII, doing work “girls” didn’t do up till then.
Wasn't she a nurse? They had women nurses in the military in WWI... it's literally not true that women didn't do that work up until then. In fact it was already considered a woman's job by that point!
Who knows what the queen did, the people in there have fallen for all the royal propaganda.
Next they're going to tell me she stormed the beaches herself.
She did a photo op changing a tyre on a military truck. It was well accepted at the time that women would do work while men were on the front line.
Yeah, when we said "yes queen" we didn't mean it literally lol. The liberals took it that way though
Not really, just find it incredibly funny that the so called "daughters of the witches you could not burn" are mourning or have complicated feelings about an actual real life monarch.
I hate using the term, biut it's just one big unironic LARP at this point.
When you somehow manage to turn witchcraft into consumerism.
:margaret-thatcher::joker-amerikkklap:
When you do "more women oppressors" unironically
Something when education is not liberating the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor something
I love how the word accountability is casually tossed out here as if the queen was ever held accountable for anything or, even funnier, that she's going to be held accountable after her death like fucking cadaver synod.
Apparently the queen is going to reincarnate and learn lessons somehow
With what she did to India I bet she's going to reincarnate into something really bad, her karma was probably wretched
Being held accountable means people on social media criticizing u, then moving on to the next thing
It's a shame there isn't a radical witchcraft subreddit. I'm against woo in general but that's a neat tradition from a feminist and communal healthcare standpoint. It has a lot of radicalisation potential in reverence for nature and the decommodification of healthcare. Like hippie shit though it's so overburdened with reactionaries and liberals that the community is inherently poisoned.
probably because witchcraft and pseudoscience is inherently reactionary
It do be, but there's also a radicalising materialist history there which has a lot of value for us. Witchcraft as women carving own their own independence in an even more patriarchal society, as land ownership and dispossession, and as female-oriented and controlled healthcare. Ethnobotany is very important for the left to claim so that the legitimate points of herbalism can be explored, and as a history of demographic persecution it's a good display of what patriarchy is.
Pseudoscience is. Witchcraft covers various practices, not necessarily even connected to metaphysical beliefs
I know we have a few people like that on here, they created the paganism community I linked in the other comment.
When it's not reactionary, liberal, or quackery it's actually pretty cool
