It shouldn't be surprising but I think a lot of obsession with "decadence" (or any other label nebulous enough that it can be applied to any group I dislike on cultural grounds alone) on the left is coming from reactionary factions.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Owning clothes is bourgeois decadence. If you wear clothes, you're not a leftist.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        You are allowed a dirty Ushanka, and your choice of one of the following:

        • A towel

        • Heart boxers

        • A giant barrel

      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Everything has to be serious at all times and we cannot find any humor in the absurdity of hell world. The last time I smiled was on August 19th, 1991. I wear a dirty ushanka at all times, do not shave, and only take cold sponge baths because hot running water is bourgeoisie decadence.

        Every day at exactly noon I have the same meal of an expired Maoist MRE I store in a pit covered in old issues of a revolutionary newspaper. I sleep in a bed made of flags from every failed revolution so that they are never forgotten. In the evenings I stare at a picture of vodka by candlelight, but I do not allow myself to drink because there is nothing to celebrate. Every local org has banned me after I attempted to split it by assassinating the leadership.

        There is no plumbing in my house I shit in a brass bucket with a picture of Gonzalo and Deng french kissing in the bottom of it. My house is actually an overturned T34 in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin.

        I have a single friend in this world and it is a tapeworm named Bordiga that I met after ingesting spoiled borscht on 9/11 in the ruins of building 7 (I blew it up after finding that a nominally leftist NGO inside of it wasn’t sufficiently anti-imperialist, the attacks on the world trade center were a perfect revolutionary moment for me to enact direct praxis against liberalism). My sole source of income is various MLM schemes in the former soviet bloc that have been running for so long no one remembers who I am, they just keep sending money.

        I have not paid taxes since McGovern lost the Democratic nomination for president and my faith in electoralism died more brutally than my childhood dog after it got into an entire jar of tylenol.

        I own 29 fully automatic rusted kalashnikovs and three crates of ammunition entirely incompatible with them or any other firearms I own. My double PHD in marxist economics and 18th century Swiss philosophy (required to understand Engels) sits over the fireplace of my home, my fireplace is a salvaged drum from a 1950s washing machine that was recalled for locking children inside of it. I chose that washing machine model on purpose because I am anti-natalist.

        During the latest BLM protests I firebombed a Nikes outlet in the middle of a peaceful candlelit vigil. William F Buckley and I wrote hatemail to one another for 47 years until my final letter gave him an aneurysm. The only water I drink is from puddles. George Lucas and I dropped acid together during an MKULTRA southern baptist summer camp and he went on to write the movie Willow about our time together.

        The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist. You can make an IED out of potassium and the instructions are online thanks to Timothy McVey, who was actually a committed antifascist communist slandered by the deep state as part of operation condor.

        Every time a liberal files a restraining order against me, I carve a mark into the wall. I am running out of walls. When Amerika finally collapses I will be ready to lead the revolution. I am very smart and people like being around me.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          My house is actually an overturned T34 in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin.

          That would be pretty cool.

          William F Buckley and I wrote hatemail to one another for 47 years until my final letter gave him an aneurysm.

          That would be incredibly cool.

          I am running out of walls.

          More than three walls is bourgeois decadence. That's why leftists are always breaking down the fourth wall.

    • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      If there is one gender, then there are no genders. Communism seeks the slow withering away of gender after the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Like the Gender Anarchists, communism seeks the abolition of gender (Geschlechtausheben) it is merely the methods of this that divide the left.

      Whether you seek to immediately force gender abolition like the Gender Anarchist all wearing a single unisex jumpsuit, the belief of Marxist-Leninists that if the Soviet Union were given enough time, people would gradually give up all performances of gender spontaneously as bourgeois decadence, or the left-coms that believe that gender expression should be perpetrated to its most diverse extent, as once everyone has their own gender it will disappear as a concept.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I know you're making a joke but those are all real factions of the gender debate if you remove the anarchist, ML, leftcom and soviet union part.

        • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I know, I tried to make the joke by combining these debates with a somewhat loose version of state abolition debates, and "if there is one party, then there are no parties" position.

      • Ideology [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        https://libcom.org/article/gender-accelerationist-manifesto

  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Fuck this person for acting like gender identity and traditionally feminine pursuits are synonymous. TRANS MEN EXIST YOU FUCKING HACK! (and for that matter, not every trans woman is necessarily going to be traditionally feminine)

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      2 years ago

      There's also tons of cis women who wear clothes and buy makeup and dye their hair. Gender identity and expression aren't exclusive to trans people lol.

  • 4ffy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Did you know that cis people have clothes and makeup and gender expression?

  • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    ............you can make eyeliner out of burnt stuff. people have been making eyeliner out of burnt stuff and face color out of vegetable juice for actual thousands of years

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Makeup (and other body decorations) might be one of those cultural things that predates any class-based societies.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The "sexual/gender stuff is bourgie decadence and deviant" attitude needs to die.

    Imagine you're some atomized mote of a person under late capitalism and you have very little agency. You say "well, at least I can always control how I present to the rest of the world."

    These nazbol dipshit types: :bugs-no:

    Like really, this is the furthest I could distill it. This is the end point as far as I have discovered. People want to have control over their bodies and how they present their bodies and their attitudes to the rest of the world, expecting some kind of mutually positive affirming ritual that builds society. Just fucking look at the Capitalist concessions, mein gott man. :zizek:

    You think gay or trans people are going to effect Capital? Will increasing their marginalization cut dollars from the 800+ billion USA military budget? The military already said gays could serve. They are already adapting the bulwark of capitalism and they are doing it ahead of you. You are falling behind Capitalism when it comes to treating your fellow humans as the people they'd like to be treated as. What the everloving fuck is wrong with you? Go to Tacoma, open Tinder, and have a good weep, you fucking nazbol dweeb. God. Damn. The working masses of the world are full of theists. You gonna create a theistic Marxism and abandon materialism to win them over? I think not. What's next, Sharia Marxianism? Marxo-Mormonism? This is one hot step away from the whole "these jobs are real labor, these other jobs aren't" kinda gatekeeping bullshit.

    Social conservatism in my leftism is like pouring rancid milk into breakfast cereal. Fuck outta here with that shit. I would be very very surprised if we broke all this down to its simplest working parts the whole root of this argument is sexism. Just sexism with a new coat of paint.

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "hey peasant, quit buying things that make you happy the same way the rich assholes do. you should only buy housing food and clothing otherwise youre just a stupid poor"

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Communism means that the government steals your gender and everyone wears identical grey jumpsuits

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      There's nothing more bourgeois than color. That's why the communist flag is always depicted in grayscale.

  • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm so confused I can't even formulate an argument. Like, buying make up is bad but only if you're born one gender, not the other. Because make up companies are the establishment. And you buying makeup if you're the "wrong" gender makes you the establishment too because of upkeep?

    What the fuck did I just read? I'm still not sure if I even grasp what this moron is trying to say fully. And it's so confusing I'm wondering now if it was posted this way deliberately just to make me feel dumb.

    We need a Dr. Brule emoji because that's the face I'm making right now.