https://twitter.com/markchediak/status/1572285949249486854
Tesla AND PG&E involved
a fire happened
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in australia a number of years ago before musk went off the deep end quite so obviously, there was a big hoorah about tesla building a giant storage battery in south australia in only 7 days. enormously well publicised, and it really fit into the narrative everyone was desperate to believe about deus ex machina techobro messiah coming and saving us with the power of efficiency when our gridlocked governments are incapable of action on the climate. and in only 7 days! and honestly i have to admit i was kinda sucked in with my desperate hopium of fuck it i dont care where the solutions are coming from at this point, if shitty giant capital can act to solve this desperately urgent crisis then fuck it critical support on this. enormous publicity coup for tesla of course
what was less publicised (and by less publicised i mean literally almost complete media blackout) was that the second one of these things he built caught fire and was spewing toxic smoke into the air for four days before they managed to put it out
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Fairly certain battery fumes are gonna be the next micro plastics. That ship already sailed because most of us aren’t going to decompose properly at this rate.
Eh, we'll just get cremated in the lithium battery fires, thus solving the problem forever!
Viking funerals for tech bros. Except they are the ones being put into the flaming vessel whilst still alive.
I think that's just a Tesla Model S in a parking lot with speedbumps.
I’m dying rn, I thought you were joking but a speed bump causing a suspension failure actually cooked one of these assholes well done. Elon keeps winning
I’m dying rn
Egads, I hope you aren't trapped in a burning Tesla. Those power door locks don't work in a crash, and the emergency release takes an absurd amount of force to get open.
the adrenaline mom lifting a car except it’s a weak ass tech bro managing to open a door.
Not sure about anything Tesla is building but battery storage helped California avoid blackout during the heatwave last month. At its peak the batteries were providing 6% of electricity being used (3300mw)
oh yeah, not clowning on battery storage in general, and im sure properly-built battery storage will be a required part of any sustainable energy mix (though i honestly know fuckall about the topic). kinda just seems like almost everyone except daddy elon have figured out how to make batteries that dont spontaneously combust every five minutes
Do you have any links or project names? I’m very interested to learn more. 3.3gw is pretty considerable, I’m curious how it integrates into the grid
Here's one article I saw about it. Not sure about the details on how it works with the grid though
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-california-kept-the-lights-on-during-monster-heat-wave/
Fascinating, thank you!
That’s such an incredible amount of battery storage. You’re right that it doesn’t give too many specifics about integration.
The reason I’m so curious is that batteries are generally pretty low-voltage and low-current devices; I was under the impression that even the most hardcore batteries were limited to around 1 or 2 kV, which isn’t even a high enough voltage for the primary distribution system. There are def batteries that can handle secondary distribution voltages, but the currents at that level are generally pretty large (since the voltage gets stepped down but power doesn’t, the current increases to compensate). I thought batteries wouldn’t be super helpful given that, so clearly I’ve got other misunderstandings to clear up
Sadly we don’t have many renewables near me, so i haven’t had a chance to see actual schematics and get a sense of necessary equipment and implementation
And if you do the battery pack thing and connect a bunch together, you need extremely sophisticated charging and discharging controls to make sure that all the batteries maintain the same operating profile; if they start to get out of sync, you’re asking for potentially catastrophic failure!
It definitely is a complex situation. There were some scheduling issues with batteries releasing power into the grid too early, when they were not needed. I'm assuming that'll be sorted out by next year since I think this is the first time the batteries were relied upon so heavily
Moss Landing is a lovely spot, literally one of the best places on Earth for whale watching. Elkhorn Slough is just on the other side of highway 1, too - you can go kayak and watch sea otters.
I had no idea the stench of Musk had landed here, I’m sure he’ll end up poisoning Monterey Bay and then post a fucking meme about it.
Monterey is like my favorite place in the world. Imma play Minecraft if he ruins it.
Truly a "they built a highway near my secluded cabin in the Montana wilderness" moment.
That's what inspired our boy Teddy K to take political action
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Oh damn, shame his brother was a fucking narc. Imagine condemning a relative to life imprisonment.
I haven’t been back to CA since I was in middle school. What did they do it?
Damn, kill your heroes applies to childhood places too it seems :doomer:
I lived there with my grandparents for a year while my dad was deployed and just remember peaceful foggy mornings walking to school and stuff.
Had no idea it was so rough. Thanks for sharing the knowledge drop.
I googled the golf balls. There’s a picture of a sea puppy surrounded by them. I appreciate this conversation but I’m logging off now because big sad. Once again, thanks for sharing your insights.
Well the stock isn't based on any actual products or material value. It's a ponzi scheme that all the investors are in on and fine with.
when i want my stuff to not catch fire, i entrust it to the experts at PG&E
Im convinced at this point that Elon is the worlds most prolific pyromaniac. He’s found a way to commit arson at an industrial scale.
"The American way of life is not up for negotiation. Period." –Poppy, at the first Earth Summit (1992)
