Like, if you work for the EPA or as some lab scientist at the FDA, are you still a prole considering you are being paid with the ill gotten gains of the American empire.

Honestly, I don’t see why US government workers shouldn’t be deemed proles, because that degree of moral abstraction could be performed on just about everyone in the US.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Your average postperson working for USPS has far less blood on their hands than many, if not most workers of private businesses. You're talking about an underfunded federal agency that is essential in a functioning society and is 100% guaranteed to exist under a socialist government. Can you say the same about anyone who works in marketing or advertising?

    Who has more blood on their hands, the sanitation workers of your municipality or a bunch of gacha game developers trying to get people addicted to waifu jpgs?

    Who has more blood on their hands, landscapers working in your local department of parks and recreation to maintain parks or clerical workers working in an HR department that's tasked to defend executives and throw workers under the bus?

    Who has more blood on their hands, people in charge of distributing safe and drinkable water or people in charge of making Dorito chips as addictive as possible?

    Yes, not all government jobs are the same. Obviously, the pigs, the courts, the carceral system in general, the military, and every single alphabet soup organization have much blood on their hands.

    This is just another case of people being intellectually lazy. No, the FBI is not the same as the Department of Education.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      if your job would exist under communism you're probably fine to doing it now as long as you're doing right by people. EMTs are better than pigs but the system is still kinda fucked and it's possible to be a fash EMT who involuntarily commits people or something.

  • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    I misread this as "work for a civilian branch of satan's government" and started thinking of what it might be like to work as a civil servant for the dark lord in the fiery pits of hell.

    :anarchist-occult:

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        You fool. You imbecile. If you were truly settlerpilled you would know it’s impossible to be racist towards whites.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    To paraphrase Zizek, "take the money moron [sniff], take it and do not feel guilty [short shniffle] and know that when the times comes you will destroy this institution and build upon it a better world [sniff]".

    • Southloop [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is something that gets me. The US military is the nation's biggest employer of disabled people, both civilian and active. this is for a lot of different reasons but for a lot of people, they get funneled in through shady recruiting or through employment programs with various agencies. I've personally found myself in grievously deeply suspect situations that could compromise me morally, but were the sort of thing I could at least reason with myself and say, "At least I am doing this, and it's keeping someone dangerous out of this position, while also granting me access to powers and peoples' attentions that let me possibly leverage change." (Not going out of my way to conform and carry out with the mechanical viciousness of the system, however, just to clarify.)

      It might be bullshit rationalization on my part at the end of the day, compensating for grief from finding myself in these environs, but I'd rather have someone I agree with positioned in the hierarchy should stuff hit the fan, able to enact some protective action, than be locked out with the rabble getting hurt and enabling hurt.

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Honestly I would imagine that a socialist working for an establishment would be better than a chud working there wanting to ensure no one gets any help. Yes the institution itself is either not enough or so bureaucratic (neoliberal means testing BS) it does not give the help we know it materially can, but in the end being able to stop a chud from taking a position of power no matter how small or insignificant in the grand scheme of things is at least making someones day a little better which is currently all we can hope for.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've considered working for BLM/USDA/NFS in an ecologist role. They're tied to the genocide of the natives but have to exist for the commons to. If we didn't have strict regulation of soil management, we'd get the dust bowl. If we didn't have crop research, we'd return to famines. Society collapses if the water doesn't flow and the water doesn't flow if agribusiness is allowed to steal it. They're protecting something more fundamental than the US for a posterity beyond Americans.

    edit: Ranger is kind of iffy. They're trained as cops and have arrest power, but they're also arresting you for poaching and defacing 10k year-old ruins. Those people should be arrested for stealing from that greater commons.

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  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Public sector unions are (with the exception of law enforcement) generally good and the opportunity to participate in them as a state/federal employee is a genuine opportunity to participate in defending the rights of laborers.

  • BigAssBlueBug [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The fda is corrupt and let oxycontin go onto the market by saying it was completely addiction free