I like how the results for pro/anti monarchy and pro/anti strong authoritarian leaders are flipped by age group. Just straight up nobody having any shred of coherent thought process here.
Also I'm sure about half of people from 18-34 being pro military dictatorship is going to play out fine and there is nothing to worry about there.
Yeah, basically anyone under 40 has literally never ever seen what a society looks like under anything but crushing, absurdly corrupt neoliberalism and completely unrepresentative politics. No different to plenty of other regressive, isolationist, economically struggling regimes.
the pro-military-dictatorship percentages would be worrying if the UK were a democracy. luckily for us... :D
Doesn't it really depend on whose values the military dictatorship is enforcing? I'm not saying that 48% is all communists or even mostly communists, but for us to get the world we want a military dictatorship is necessary for a time, is it not?
Yeah combining that with the 71% "there are different laws for rich and poor" strikes me as a survey that should have asked if folks are communists.
A dictatorship of the proletariat isn’t a military dictatorship. The military must be subject to a civilian government.
The military must be subject to a
civilian governmentworker's partya mistake of the USSR was apoliticizing the military. China still has their army under the party.
Soviet military was not apolitic, but it was subject to a civilian government, and when civilian government went counterrevolitionary, military tried to act in August 1991, but weakly and indecisively, which resulted in abject failure.
What's the game plan look like to get the british army to overthrow the state and then also institute socialism at least?
And why would you want any army as the ruling dictatorship? I can see needing an army, it's sort of a necessary function of a state, I do not see why you need them in charge of things entirely undemocratically
It really depends on what you mean by "army". At first glance I had the same reaction, that a military dictatorship is not good, but if you start to think about it as a people's army it doesn't seem so bad. The prospect of an actual socialist revolution in somewhere like Britain is so far fetched, but if it were to happen that would be the only way I could see it going down. There would be years of reaction to suppress, and I don't see how that's done without a very active and large people's army doing the suppressing.
half of people from 18-34 being pro military dictatorship
Roundhead youth
They hate Harry and Meghan more than Charles huh.
Also 5% supporting Prince Andrew barf
The chances of the Queen’s passing prompting a move towards a more egalitarian form of government are slim, then; support for replacing the monarchy with a republic actually fell following her death. Instead, Britain is the same nation it always was: one that likes being ruled over by leaders who don’t have to bother with elections – or who simply inherit power from their parents.
While I don't foresee a move to a republic anytime soon, this bump in goodwill toward the monarchy and Charles is obviously a temporary result of the queen's death. The queen, of course, was enormously personally popular, and her dying has reignited everybody's warms and fuzzies to the crown. I guarantee all these positive numbers will see a big drop in the coming year. Probably the UK will still remain overall positive about the monarchy, but not at this extremely high level.
Also, I wonder how these poll results break down geographically. Do the Scots and the Welsh love the monarchy, too?
Do the Scots and the Welsh love the monarchy, too?
No and you get a completely different result to this polling question depending on whether you ask people if we should be a republic or whether you ask people if we should have an elected head of state.
The poll also asked respondents how they thought the Queen would vote if she could do so... 1% went for Plaid Cymru
i would 100% say the queen would vote for plaid cymru too if they asked me :michael-laugh:
From that article:
The poll also asked respondents how they thought the Queen would vote if she could do so.
I never knew the monarch can't vote.
extra pathetic considering the absolute state of britains military
does a single brit not in the army know a single general or admiral? in love with the idea of military rule to the exclusion of the reality of that military as a fading, emaciated vestige
It's the most potent in Europe. They just completed a supercarrier.
Compare this to the rest of Europe, where their carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, isn't super and has had a propeller fall off as it tried to leave port.
the british have a smaller navy than they did in the 80s and even then needed US logistical support to beat up Argentina
Everyone has a smaller navy than they did in the 80s.
The British military is one of the biggest and best in Europe. It's really weird saying they're some kind of national wimps like Italy or Belgium. They are hardly fading nor vestigial.
i wouldnt say any euro military is necessarily national wimps, just very US-reliant and not very prestigious, especially compared to their imperial pasts. wanting a military rule in europe is like wanting to be a US colony
Britons don't fucking know what "Republic" means.
Ask them the question " Should Britain's head of state be elected? " and you get 34% of the population wanting a Republic. Support in London was the highest in England at 45%.
Novara Media won't bring this up because they've clearly demonstrated on twitter in the last couple of weeks that they're against the left turning towards republicanism. Sheepdogs.
