We're not voting for him libs, get the fuck over it already lol.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        When you vote for Biden you’re essentially approving his platform.

        Lol not remotely. He has no meaningful platform, for starters. Voting is an extremely limited political tactic, not some sort of moral endorsement.

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            yeah he does have a platform

            But no meaningful platform. He doesn't care about it, his supporters don't care about it, the odds of him passing anything significant are slim, etc. It's just "hey remember Obama?"

            it’s an opportunity to make clear that you don’t support something

            You can't make anything clear with your vote, because a vote isn't a message, and the left doesn't control mainstream messaging outlets. Literally zero of the reasons you have for voting the way you do will be communicated to anyone unless you personally tell them. The messaging is all done after the fact, by people in the media.

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          succDems are so mentally weak its a joke

          They have no moral compass or sense of decency but instead are cowed at the fake hype that Biden is less worse than Trump

          Imagine writing rape apologia like this

          And heads up: i can make a very convincing arguement that Biden is worse than Trump as all the countries suffering under the jackboot of imperialism want Trump to win

            • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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              Can start with under Obama/Biden

              • the dems took 3 wars to 7

              *Opened concentration camps on the Mex border

              • imprisoned more whistleblowers than every previous president combined under Obama/Biden

              *Obamas renege on his 2008 campaign and all his promises led directly to Trump

              Conversely Trump has not started a new major war

              But honestly if you can torture yourself mentally into having any respect for yourself after voting for Biden you're a shitlib and a lost cause

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                  And heads up: i can make a very convincing arguement that Biden is worse than Trump as all the countries suffering under the jackboot of imperialism want Trump to win

                  Looks like you struggle to read for comprehension if you think I'm "defending Trump" so I've just repeated what I said back to you ^

                  You’re the one putting way too much weight on electoralism

                  Oh only 2 comments up you said:

                  I’m voting against Trump. Yeah it sucks to do it

                  Nope - you're the one here focused on electoralism trying to get people to vote for a Rapist and writing rape apologia to do so

                  you sound like a larpy 15 year old

                  If larping means being an active member of a Communist Party then yes I'm a larper.

                  that thinks winning arguments on the internet has any value.

                  How I'll sleep the day after the election knowing my 3rd party vote cost you your favourite candidate winning

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                  Wow, you really do struggle with reading for comprehension

                  On a serious note I would urge you to study and better your reading for comprehension skills. It is a valuable life skill

                  https://www.readingforcomprehension.com/

                  I'll go ahead and repeat a third time the key sentence I want you to understand and I'll leave it up to you whether you think I'm "supporting Trump" or whether I'm demonstrating the bit I've boldened

                  And heads up i can make a very convincing arguement that Biden is worse than Trumps all the countries suffering under the jackboot of imperialism want Trump to win

    • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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      What do you think will be the consequences of rewarding the DNC for their present conduct?

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      President Kamala sounds good to you? If they keep being worse and worse and yet you keep rewarding them, you are the fool and not them and you don't get to complain. The fact that you say not voting helps trump shows how fucking shackled you are to the two party system and the idea that there is no other choice.

      Yea Trump is terrible. But he only caused the Dems to also be even worse then before instead of better. Being the marginally lesser evil has been their only selling point at least since Nixon.

      They will not learn without resistance. We have to make them understand that there is a limit. They have to lose or they will absolutely not change. To be fair I don't think they will change enough of they lose, but losing twice to trump is the best wake up call I can imagine.

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          If it doesn't matter then why are you gonna vote at all?

          I am condescending because we can't coddle each other like children over this stuff. If we can't talk candidly to each other then what can we do? I believe quite firmly that a vote for the lesser evil is always the wrong choice. If neither party is able to even promise you a thing you want, then it makes no sense to vote for either party. And a thing you want can't be one party saying 'we will not piss on you if you are on fire' and the other saying 'well we might be convinced to piss on you under the right circumstances'. Yes that is two distinct choices and you can rank them and one is better then the other, but they are still not choices you should see as the horizon of the possible.

          So, to spell it out: In a choice between Kamala and Pence, the correct choice is to choose neither.

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              Well I am sorry if I sound persuasive. Maybe I am making good points ;)

              And you do have another reason to vote for Biden after all. Not a good one but hey, it's something.

              This election not mattering is actually an okay stance in my book. I am very morally incensed about the democrats and I am not hiding that. If you are just done with the system for the most part then that's fair enough.